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Solution to draftees not wanting to play in non-playoff bowls
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:20 am
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:20 am
Let Red-shirts play. Treat these games for what they are...prep for next season. The coaches already treat most of the bowl practices as "next year prep". Let red-shirts play with no consequence. Make the game a "futures showcase".
Edit: if you don't agree with the "next year vs winning" argument, then ignore it and focus just on allowing red shirts to play. Coaches could get some valuable development time and fans could be rewarded with a look at the future of the program. You're only adding back what u lost. If the incumbent wants to play, then you probably play him. But if you have a redshirt that's ready, you can let er rip instead of worrying about burning the redshirt.
*** Make the rule "you can play a redshirt for every draft eligible player sitting out****
Takes the heat off draftees that really shouldn't play by providing fans with something else to look forward to.
Imagine having a junior QB who's gonna be a top pick(humor me) but u have Myles Brennan waiting in the wings. The pick could sit it out or even take a "farewell series" and then we could be introduced to the future.
It would increase interest in these bs games for sure. Especially for the fan bases
ETA: it's a pipe dream. I know. Makes too much sense for the NCAA to agree
Edit: if you don't agree with the "next year vs winning" argument, then ignore it and focus just on allowing red shirts to play. Coaches could get some valuable development time and fans could be rewarded with a look at the future of the program. You're only adding back what u lost. If the incumbent wants to play, then you probably play him. But if you have a redshirt that's ready, you can let er rip instead of worrying about burning the redshirt.
*** Make the rule "you can play a redshirt for every draft eligible player sitting out****
Takes the heat off draftees that really shouldn't play by providing fans with something else to look forward to.
Imagine having a junior QB who's gonna be a top pick(humor me) but u have Myles Brennan waiting in the wings. The pick could sit it out or even take a "farewell series" and then we could be introduced to the future.
It would increase interest in these bs games for sure. Especially for the fan bases
ETA: it's a pipe dream. I know. Makes too much sense for the NCAA to agree
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 9:25 am
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:21 am to Schmelly
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Let Red-shirts play. Treat these games for what they are...prep for next season.
But they count for this season's records.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:22 am to Schmelly
I'll allow it.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:23 am to Schmelly
It's not a solution to the problem but I like the idea regardless.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:24 am to Schmelly
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Makes too much sense for the NCAA to agree
Yeah, it really doesn't.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:26 am to Hot Carl
Then don't count the wins in the records. Hell don't count the stats. Wtf does it matter? It's a glorified exhibition anyway
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:27 am to Hot Carl
"10 win seasons" & record books already don't mean what they used to with conference championship games and teams playing in bowl games vs ones that don't
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:29 am to Schmelly
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Then don't count the wins in the records. Hell don't count the stats
You think people don't care about them now?
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Wtf does it matter? It
Because our guys are wearing LSU uniforms and competing against guys in other uniforms and they're keeping score.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:33 am to Hot Carl
Carl, are u caught up in the old school thinking that the bowl games are still meaningful? I wish they were, but that's just not the case anymore and will be less and less valued going forward. Players get treated as commodities, they realize this and they're looking out for themselves. Can't blame them. So adjust for it
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:38 am to Hot Carl
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You think people don't care about them now
Okay. Keep them lol. It doesn't matter. Teams still don't play the same # of games so stats & records are always skewed
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Because our guys are wearing LSU uniforms and competing against guys in other uniforms and they're keeping score.
So you are a traditionalist. I get it. But this problem is only gonna get worse. And, like I said, as a hardcore fan of the schoo you love, you care about the actual game more than the coaches do. They have a business to run and winning the game is only a small part in improving the business
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:48 am to Schmelly
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So you are a traditionalist
Not really. I think we should wear purple more and think our all-whites is the best looking uniform in all of college football. And I don't care too much about stats or even records. But if teams are going to go through the trouble of playing games, they may as well try to win them. I'm afraid your idea destines the bowls to what the Pro Bowl has become. And that is not good for college football.
I do agree that we are on the precipice of mass exoduses before the bowls, and I'm not sure what the best solution is. At least you are trying.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:51 am to Jack Daniel
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It's not a solution to the problem but I like the idea regardless.
I agree, that's a pretty interesting idea.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:52 am to Hot Carl
Ok, so forget all of my OP except allowing red-shirts to play without consequence. What's hurt?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:53 am to Schmelly
I think scholarships should have more incentives. You can't sit out for non-medical reasons without paying it back.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:53 am to Schmelly
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Coaches don't care about winning and losing these games as much as fans do
bullshite. This is the springboard for the next season. I have never met a coach that did not give a shite about winning. Also means money to staff for incentives. Affects recruiting...
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:54 am to Jack Daniel
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It's not a solution to the problem but I like the idea regardless.
Yeah you're right. Semantics. Maybe "fan and team compensation" is a better description. But you get what I'm gettin at
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 8:54 am
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:57 am to GetmorewithLes
quote:. I didn't say they don't give a shite. Or if I did, that's not exactly what I meant. I'm saying they use the practices more for the future than for the game. I've been to bowl practices. They're springboard king the shite outta next year. If the coach is on the hotseat, then maybe they focus on it more. But for somebody like O? Shiiit, he's implementing stuff for next year for sure
bullshite. This is the springboard for the next season. I have never met a coach that did not give a shite about winning. Also means money to staff for incentives. Affects recruiting
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:05 am to Schmelly
I agree with everything you say here except that coaches don't care about winning and losing these games as much as fans do. That may be your perception, but I guarantee that winning this gane is all Ed Orgeron or anyone else running a major program is thinking about right now(besides recruiting)
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:08 am to Schmelly
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Ok, so forget all of my OP except allowing red-shirts to play without consequence. What's hurt?
On its face, nothing. I'm just afraid there would be unintended consequences. There may not be any, though.
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