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re: So You Don't Know Why Miles Might Want to Start Jefferson?
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Be honest. 6 pts isn't a huge barrier to overcome. One pass can make that happen. I don't get where you folk think this is some major offensive explosion to match.
So you are saying you had complete confidence JL would shake off his last to throws and lead us to victory?
I never said I thought he couldn't. I said at that point my confidence that he could was not very high. As any reasonable fan who knows the game would think.
As for the offensive explosion....I don't think either QB would have put many pts on the board. I was more concerned JL would give bama easy scores though.
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:45 am to justustm2
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When Lee was starting, there was no anger or clamor for JJ to start. There was no booing of JL.
Where the frick were you in 2008?
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolute bullshite. 2008. All of us were clamoring for JJ to start.
While I didnt boo in 2008 JL did most certainly get booed. I think what he is saying is that people continue to boo JJ now even though he has played well. Why that is I dont know.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:46 am to Dupont3
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We lost in overtime when he was a freshman and our team was much weaker. You can't say 100% that if JJ didn't play we would have lost.
Yeah Bama was a lot weaker too.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:46 am to mylsuhat
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I really believe on that second pick that the receiver was supposed to come back to the ball. Looked to me like miscommunication. I could be wrong though.
How about the first pick, when Lee dropped the snap then just threw the ball without even looking? That's the crap that scares me to death.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:46 am to Topwater Trout
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So you are saying you had complete confidence JL would shake off his last to throws and lead us to victory?
Your problem is you speak in absolutes. Life isn't that way. Most things in life happen in various locations along the spectrum between the absolutes.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:46 am to Topwater Trout
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So you are saying you had complete confidence JL would shake off his last to throws and lead us to victory?
Again, JJ didn't lead the team to any points after Lee's 2nd pick. Claiborne interception followed by 3 plays netting 2 yards and a game tying field goal in the 4th.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:46 am to CptBengal
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Lee had 11 snaps. Really? that's A LOT of playing?
What game has a better comparative ratio of both starters going against the first team defense? It's our best example of both QB's running the same offense against the same defense. Sure, it's not 50-50, but throw out the 5 OT plays to only compare regulation and we've got 11 snaps to 44. Uneven, but still each QB had at least 20% of the regulation snaps -- it's enough to make a comparison, particularly compared to the rest of the schedule.
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Let me ask you...is bama's defensive ranking a high leverage point in comparison to the set?
Sure, but it doesn't matter. Both QB's faced the same quality defense. Alabama is the best defense we will play, but that doesn't make Lee's stats an automatic outlier. That's just an effort to make somebody's numbers look better by throwing out the hardest conditions.
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Did I talk about Lee's numbers being an outlier? Please try to stay on target.
Yes. Well, in a roundabout way which mistakes the definition of an outlier, but yes, you did. You said Bama's defense is so tough that it is an outlier, so therefore we can't evaluate Lee using that game -- which means throwing them out. You're misusing the concept of an outlier and then trying to get rid of that misconception by then disingenuously arguing that Lee's numbers are NOT an outlier. OK, in that case, we use them. If you aren't arguing Lee's Bama numbers are an outlier, then you have no objection to anyone using them to evaluate the quarterbacks.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:47 am to Boh
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When Lee was starting, there was no anger or clamor for JJ to start. There was no booing of JL.
Where the frick were you in 2008?
In diapers, I suppose. Rest of us remember it well.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:47 am to Boh
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JJ didn't get us into field goal range after Lee's second pick either, for the record.
true, but Lee doesn't drive us 73 yards at the end of the 1st half either.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:48 am to Adam Banks
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. I think what he is saying is that people continue to boo JJ now even though he has played well. Why that is I dont know.
Who is this?
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:48 am to Boh
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Again, JJ didn't lead the team to any points after Lee's 2nd pick.
JJ lead the team to 6 points and had 0 turnovers. Lee gave Bama field position and a free 3 points.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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And you believe it would be some offensive shootout... Yeah, unlikely. Your bias makes it difficult to reason with you. The benchmark is 6 points at the present time.
I never said it would be an offensive shootout. Not at all.
But you discount that the game would be different if either qb started the whole time and that doesn't make any sense.
LSU play calling is different between the two qbs. The offense with the Lee play calling wasn't working that well.
The JJ offense showed some ability to move the ball.
I don't see how you think the game would be guaranteed to be 6-6 at the end of regulation if either qb started the whole time.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolute bullshite. 2008. All of us were clamoring for JJ to start.
2008???? I thought we were in the present. Whenever someone brings up 2008, I thought you guys were against bringing up the past. I was referring to the current situation. What has happened this year.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:48 am to LSUzealot
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true, but Lee doesn't drive us 73 yards at the end of the 1st half either.
The difference is my post is a fact, and yours is speculation.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:49 am to LSUzealot
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JJ lead the team to 6 points and had 0 turnovers
Fair to say he led the team to 3 points at the end of the first half. Didn't get us into field goal range at all in the 2nd (see Mo's pick that has been mentioned 44 times already)
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:49 am to BeeFense5
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I never said it would be an offensive shootout. Not at all.
But you discount that the game would be different if either qb started the whole time and that doesn't make any sense.
No, I don't. You just don't have the ability to understand. 6 points is what LSU scored in the game. It's all anyone, including yourself...has to go on.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Who is this?
there are fans in the stands who still do. There were a couple of threads on here during and after the game about select people not just booing but using racial slurs. Im not saying that every Lee supporter is like this however there are some ignorant people in our fanbase who hate JJ for that reason. Once again I know not everyone who prefers Lee is like this.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 11:00 am
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:52 am to blackjackjackson
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future thread idea:
bcsncg: who starts vs alabama?
Another thread idea:
Which QB gets to hold up the crystal ball? Poster sales will be down if it's JJ.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Your problem is you speak in absolutes. Life isn't that way. Most things in life happen in various locations along the spectrum between the absolutes.
Uh Hello this is about football. We are discussing how we feel a QB would have performed after throwing 2 interceptions on the road against a great defense. If you feel you can't give your opinion why enter the discussion?
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