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Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:38 am to Topwater Trout
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From his performance did you have confidence he would get better as the game went on? Be honest.
Be honest. 6 pts isn't a huge barrier to overcome. One pass can make that happen. I don't get where you folk think this is some major offensive explosion to match.
Miles did the right thing to put JJ in the game when he did. Sometimes sitting a QB for a series or two helps settle him down. It worked out in the end, no one should be upset over the Bama game to begin with.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:38 am to Dupont3
quote:It's like you know exactly what my weakness is.
Sh..your showing how dumb you really are.
I can't argue with a post that is completely devoid of facts or analysis.
You win. Congratulations.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:39 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Do people credit Lee with wins from last year when he came in for JJ? I'll hang up and listen...
he most certainly got credit for the win vs florida last year. and tennessee too.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:39 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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In my honest opinion, Jordan Jefferson is going to start the rest of the season
I believe Miles has made up his mind, so I agree.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:39 am to therick711
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I'm not sure I am quick to criticize anyone a year ex post facto
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It isn't all the playcall though. Watch Jefferson's last play against Arkansas last year.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:39 am to just me
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You realize that Jefferson has a lower interception percentage than Lee since Bama '10, right? That's with a similar number of pass attempts.
Impressive, but my main point is minimizing negative plays and interceptions are but one type of negative play. Again, I think his pocket awareness is a crippling weakness--and hopefully won't be a costly one in terms of wins and losses. Now the JJ that runs QB wham and speed and load options, when his decision-making is right as it has been this year, has something to bring to the table. To me, that role should be ancillary and sparing, but it is certainly a valuable component.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 10:41 am
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:40 am to mylsuhat
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I really believe on that second pick that the receiver was supposed to come back to the ball. Looked to me like miscommunication. I could be wrong though.
Seriously? Lee picked up a bad snap and threw it without looking at the defense. The receiver wasnt catching that no matter what route he ran
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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When it comes to starting, people should just let it go. We know what may or may not happen and it's been a nice ride for both QB's this year. Let's hope LSU wins the NC, and a new QB era starts next hear with hopefully someone that the fans can get behind, but not worship. Both of these guys have made good plays that have contributed to the success of the team but neither have been pivotal. Let Les play who he wants to play, hope for the W and move on.
Amen, plus the way coaches break down film now a days they see all the little nuances in each defense that they can exploit...plus they know their players...all the bickering back and forth is just a moo point. We are 10 - 0 in the first time in foreverrr...let's enjoy it
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:40 am to Royal Tiger Fan
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Either way this is Les Miles team. We see this team on Saturday; he sees them every waking day. I'm comfortable with whoever is behind the center...because Les is comfortable with whoever is behind the center.
This is what the JJ haters don't understand. When Lee was starting, there was no anger or clamor for JJ to start. There was no booing of JL.
The anger is exhibited over JJ starting and sometimes even playing. That brings about the sh@#$ing on JJ to justify the argument that JL should start. Then the JJ supporters or just fair play people feel obligated to support the notion that starting JJ is not the worst thing in the world, as some would argue. They bring out his positive qualities to justify why Miles might have chosen to start him over JL.
Some of us support which ever QB Miles chooses to start and do not feel the need to castigate his choice. Some of us do not support the denigrating any of the young men who chose to wear the Purple and Gold. We choose to support them regardless.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:40 am to LSUzealot
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We would have been down by 3 points. Lee had thrown a pick his last 2 passes--the last one being absolutely awful. No way Lee comes in the very next drive and gets a FG (what JJ did). We would have punted. Bama would have had the ball with all the momemtum.
If you're referring to Lee's first pick, that didn't lead to points. Bama got their 2nd field goal after Lee's 2nd pick, but then our offense didn't move the ball at all and Claiborne provided the interception that led to the tying field goal in the 4th quarter
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Be honest. 6 pts isn't a huge barrier to overcome. One pass can make that happen. I don't get where you folk think this is some major offensive explosion to match.
Because you seem to still discount that it would be a different game if Lee played all the snaps. Play calling, field position and basic strategy of each team would be different. There is no guarantee that all we would need to win was 6 points in regulation and 3 in over time if Lee ended up playing all the snaps.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 10:42 am
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:41 am to GeauxTigerTM
JJ played 80 percent of the snaps. How do you know that if JL played the whole game we wouldn't have one? We lost in overtime when he was a freshman and our team was much weaker. You can't say 100% that if JJ didn't play we would have lost.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:43 am to LSUzealot
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you're telling me JL couldn't get is in field goal range at least once.
Honestly, I doubt it after Lee's second pick.
JJ didn't get us into field goal range after Lee's second pick either, for the record.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:43 am to justustm2
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When Lee was starting, there was no anger or clamor for JJ to start. There was no booing of JL.
Absolute bullshite. 2008. All of us were clamoring for JJ to start.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:43 am to CptBengal
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...is bama's defensive ranking a high leverage point in comparison to the set?
So what you're saying is that you want Lee to start against the weaker Defenses, but Jefferson should start against the really good ones?
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:43 am to Dupont3
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You can't say 100% that if JJ didn't play we would have lost.
No shite, huh?
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:43 am to EarthwormJim
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second pick
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Seriously? Lee picked up a bad snap and threw it without looking at the defense
Incorrect, that was the 1st pick.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:44 am to just me
future thread idea:
bcsncg: who starts vs alabama?
p.s. great post, thanks.
p.p.s. a peacekeeper is one who doesn't take either side, but maintains their own peace.
so, i'll take both jj and jl and trust lm.
bcsncg: who starts vs alabama?
p.s. great post, thanks.
p.p.s. a peacekeeper is one who doesn't take either side, but maintains their own peace.
so, i'll take both jj and jl and trust lm.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:44 am to BeeFense5
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Because you seem to still discount that it would be a different game if Lee played all the snaps
And you believe it would be some offensive shootout...
Yeah, unlikely. Your bias makes it difficult to reason with you. The benchmark is 6 points at the present time.
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