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So Whose Fault is it?

Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Jmonsta2243
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1335 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:14 pm
Is it because O left us with a program that was ran into the ground? Or is it Kelly’s fault because he can’t beat top 10 teams?…. The trick is you can’t say both…. Downvote away…..
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32013 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Downvote away


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Posted by burreauxsballz
Member since Jan 2022
777 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:16 pm to
It can be a combination of both. Not everything is mutually exclusive. I would say O is the reason we can’t beat top 10 teams but Brian Kelly was the reason we got blown out yesterday.
Posted by Jmonsta2243
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1335 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:17 pm to
I downvoted myself.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4576 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:17 pm to
What was our record the past two seasons? Start there.
Posted by Sp0728
Your head
Member since Aug 2018
1551 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:18 pm to
Both
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24658 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:18 pm to
Denbrock.


A good OC makes us at least creative.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:18 pm to
The trick is it's called nuance discussion with critical thinking. Both can be right. BK can do a helluva lot better than what you saw yesterday. Nobody expect the team to be good this year but you should see improvement every single game no matter how many losses they have. At home, that's all time embarrassing for any LSU team. They were not even competitive. Unacceptable.

If this is what we going to get from him deflecting blame implying he doesn't have talent and then not acknowledging his own stubborn decisions cost the team early yesterday on top of not doing the best he could to put the players in the best position by making 2 BBQ hires that anyone with eyes could see were bad hires.

So no, BK can kindly frick off on the lack of talent comment when he's just as accountable for the losses both times this season. These are guys just entering adulthood and not professional players. They need to develop. Meanwhile, he's paid 10 million a year to figure it out.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 1:20 pm
Posted by DesertCajun
New Mexico
Member since Mar 2007
637 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:19 pm to
The fault is with people who want simple answers to complex questions
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4576 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

It can be a combination of both. Not everything is mutually exclusive. I would say O is the reason we can’t beat top 10 teams but Brian Kelly was the reason we got blown out yesterday.


That’s a fair answer. Our coaches coached yesterdays game like the typical coach who knows his team is out-matched. They took unnecessary risk. On the rare occasion those things work, you can beat a team that is more talented than you. Yesterday was not that day.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10702 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:20 pm to
People don’t realize how bad O left this program. While we have talent, we have 1 deep talent and some big gaps at several positions. O’s big sell was recruiting and he didn’t do it well
Posted by Jmonsta2243
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1335 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:21 pm to
So… what is the answer?
Posted by Homer Pelican
Homer la
Member since Dec 2021
1937 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:23 pm to
All the coaches
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14916 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:28 pm to
Is this even a question? The program is where it is right now because of O. That’s not even questionable.

The 2018, 2019, and 2020 classes should make up the upper classmen of this roster and there’s like 19 guys total still left. Not even an entire recruiting class when you make up 3 total classes.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12000 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:34 pm to
How many went Pro early?
Just because this staff overvalued players in the Portal, doesn't make it Orgeron's fault.
Brennan, McGlothern and Ricks were still on the roster when O was fired.
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
1429 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:35 pm to
I thought Lsu had top 5 recruiting class in 19 and 20. According to TD, LSu has more talent than anyone.

How is that reflective or Orgeron leaving the team depleted? Lots of talent there.

Plus. Transfer portal. That's a game-chamger too.

Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:35 pm to
Polian needs to go
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14916 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Just because this staff overvalued players in the Portal, doesn't make it Orgeron's fault.


Overvalued? This team would be an absolute mess if it weren’t for the guys from the portal.
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