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re: So when do we actually start giving O some credit?

Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:45 pm to
I agree 100% but you can keep hurling petty insults and deflecting if you want. You asked for proof of improving then when it was presented you jumped off topic and used a single game to determine the entire course and tenure of our coach. Prettty sad.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 6:46 pm
Posted by 901Tiger
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:46 pm to
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Can only beat who is on schedule. Also three freshman linemen early in year because of injuries. As freshmen linemen grew we got better. If you cannot agree to that well you just want to bitch. Oh Yeah Geaux Tigers!




Miss St. and Troy losses can be attributed to lack of O/D linemen experience/depth due to injuries, suspensions, offseason transfers, etc.
Posted by tigerfan92
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:46 pm to
So it.sounds like no one will ever give Coach O any credit because he was never a coordinator. That is about the stupidest comment I've ever heard. So the head coach just wears a headset and does nothing else. Only on TD will you ever hear this !
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39994 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:47 pm to
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you jumped off topic and used a single game to determine the entire curse and tenure of our coach.

Not entirely sure what this even means but I'm pretty sure that's not what I did
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:48 pm to
If we can keep some of these juniors to stick around in the future we will be playing in the big game. The leadership alone is so important.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:49 pm to
He’ll get credit when he accomplishes something worthy of getting credit for based on the expectations of the program. It’s pretty simple.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39994 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:49 pm to
As to improvement under O, we finished 17th in Les' last full season in 2015, which is our current ranking. If we beat Notre Dame I'll be more inclined to agree he's improved things. TBD at this point
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48627 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:49 pm to
LSU has the same monetary position when Saban took over, i guess to this guy we were a top tier program then too. These people use subjective terms as concrete eveudence all the while ignoring and devaluing any fact or evidence that doesn’t fit their agenda. What’s sad is they work day and night in hopes this coach will fail and be fired and it’s all for not. As long as he keeps us headed in the right direction he’s secure and hopefully these idiots jump ship or die from stress.
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:50 pm to
Go to rant past comments you will see comments like O needs to let Canada do his job. So he decides to do that so now he doesn't do shite. Make up your minds . Please you are like a one legged man in a arse kicking contest. Up and Down!
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48627 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:51 pm to
Ah yes there it is using an opinion poll to discredit actual wins and losses. It’s amazing the mental gymnastics you guys do and still believe people buy the bullshite you’re trying to sell.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39994 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:52 pm to
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Go to rant past comments you will see comments like O needs to let Canada do his job. So he decides to do just that now he doesn't do shite.

We'd all prefer a coach who actually knows what he's doing on one side of the ball and can thus lock that side down regardless of the coming and going of coordinators that may or may not occur. That's really the bottom line.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48627 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:53 pm to
One of my other favorites was at the beginning of the year when we were struggling the narrative was. “O can’t recruit, he was recruiting coordinator so the lack of talent depth is on him.” Then when we started winning it was “ he’s winning with Miles players.” The melt is glorious.
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:54 pm to
I can appreciate that but how about best man for that job? He may not be best coach out of choices.Times change later choice can be different. I wanted Hermann but now I am screaming and cheering for LSU!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48627 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:54 pm to
He’s knows more about defense and dline play than Les knew about anything at any position.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39994 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:54 pm to
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Ah yes there it is using an opinion poll to discredit actual wins and losses. I

A bowl win over Notre Dame gives us the same record as 2015 if you include the cancelled McNeese game. Jesus man I was trying to throw you a bone with the polls thing and acknowledge a win would put us at a higher spot than where Les left us but you're too dense to even understand that
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:55 pm to
We all say crap that we really don't mean at times because we are so unhappy about a choice or situation. But we ne d to cheer for the boys!
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39994 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Then when we started winning it was “ he’s winning with Miles players.

I've never once bought into this line of thinking for any coach because it's fricking asinine. They're his players. O coached them all offseason and all throughout the year
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48627 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:57 pm to
We didn’t play the McNeese game so if O wins the bowl game we’ll be 10-3, Les was 9-3 in 2015 that’s not the same record. You don’t get credit for games that didn’t happen we had a game cancelled last year and nobody has ever credited O for that win the way they do for Les he mcneese. Another example of the double standard.
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:57 pm to
Human nature if we don't get our way we pout. Complain and kick our feet. NaNaNaNaNa!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48627 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:57 pm to
Not saying you did but there was a lot of people saying it.
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