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re: So now I understand why everybody transfered

Posted on 1/23/23 at 8:00 am to
Posted by ReeseWee
Geismar, LA
Member since May 2019
465 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 8:00 am to
What good coach would take this job after all the sanctions that suppose to be coming? SW was lucky to get MM.
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
6749 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 8:10 am to
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This is a shite show
it’s a shite show because everybody transferred
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 8:11 am to
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Have you watched Brandon Murray? 16ppg and highlights all over the place. Just stop.

Isn’t it funny how people just last season was eating up Wade when they lost in early January because Murray was out. It is a total recency bias effect in here. “You mean you can’t win without a freshman?” Appalling!

Either Murray is good and Wade can coach or he is not.

This team has MORE than enough talent to be competitive. Nobody expected a tournament team this season. I was hoping for 17-18 wins and maybe the NIT.

Firing Wade was necessary to stop the “lack of institutional control” because of football. Nothing else.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28345 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 8:22 am to
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What good coach would take this job after all the sanctions that suppose to be coming? SW was lucky to get MM.


A coach that knows the sanctions will likely be minimal. That was the point of firing Wade. LSU's position will be that a "rouge" HC was fully responsible for the indiscretions. Not the program. And the IARP investigations seem to reflect they are more interested in punishing the coaches than the subsequent coach/players who had nothing to do with the violations.

McMahon certainly had more suitors than LSU. If he was deeply concerned about "draconian sanctions", I doubt he takes the LSU job. But all one has to do is look at the rest of the SEC to see that hiring a "big name" coach is relatively rare. Six schools, nearly half the conference, hired new coaches after last season. None of them, besides LSU, were facing "looming sanctions". The hires:

Mississippi St. - Chris Jans from New Mexico St.
Florida - Todd Golden from San Francisco
Missouri - Dennis Gates from Cleveland St
South Carolina - Lamont Paris from Chattanooga
Georgia - Mike White from Florida (who was going to fire him anyway)
LSU - Matt McMahon

LSU wasn't alone in hiring a mid-major HC. And of that group of mid-major coaches, McMahon was probably the most accomplished. What that shows you is it is relatively rare for major conf. teams to take an accomplished HC from another major conf. program. It happens, but not terrible often. And generally that is because there is some sort of external draw that brings a coach to the school. Ex. Chris Beard leaving a great Texas Tech program he built for his alma mater (and more resources) at Texas.

LSU basketball doesn't have the championship pedigree of football and baseball to make it a top level destination for accomplished major conf. HCs. And last I checked, there isn't a HOF, multiple time national championship winning coach in men's basketball who happens to have grown up in Louisiana and had a child attend LSU.

On paper, McMahon wasn't a bad hire. Particularly when compared with the other SEC hires made this past offseason. In fact, you could argue he may have been more accomplished than Wade when he was hired away from VCU (though VCU is a stronger program than Murray St.). The reality is, for whatever reason, McMahon is simply not getting it done right now. This roster doesn't match up with Tennessee, Alabama, etc. We know that. But it should be more than good enough to not get run out of the gym every night. Other teams with equal or lesser talent have at least been able to compete with Alabama, Tennessee, Auburn, even Texas A&M this season whereas LSU looked defeated before the 10:00 mark of the first half.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:16 am to
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A coach that knows the sanctions will likely be minimal. That was the point of firing Wade. LSU's position will be that a "rouge" HC was fully responsible for the indiscretions. Not the program. And the IARP investigations seem to reflect they are more interested in punishing the coaches than the subsequent coach/players who had nothing to do with the violations. McMahon certainly had more suitors than LSU. If he was deeply concerned about "draconian sanctions", I doubt he takes the LSU job. But all one has to do is look at the rest of the SEC to see that hiring a "big name" coach is relatively rare. Six schools, nearly half the conference, hired new coaches after last season. None of them, besides LSU, were facing "looming sanctions". The hires: Mississippi St. - Chris Jans from New Mexico St. Florida - Todd Golden from San Francisco Missouri - Dennis Gates from Cleveland St South Carolina - Lamont Paris from Chattanooga Georgia - Mike White from Florida (who was going to fire him anyway) LSU - Matt McMahon LSU wasn't alone in hiring a mid-major HC. And of that group of mid-major coaches, McMahon was probably the most accomplished. What that shows you is it is relatively rare for major conf. teams to take an accomplished HC from another major conf. program. It happens, but not terrible often. And generally that is because there is some sort of external draw that brings a coach to the school. Ex. Chris Beard leaving a great Texas Tech program he built for his alma mater (and more resources) at Texas. LSU basketball doesn't have the championship pedigree of football and baseball to make it a top level destination for accomplished major conf. HCs. And last I checked, there isn't a HOF, multiple time national championship winning coach in men's basketball who happens to have grown up in Louisiana and had a child attend LSU. On paper, McMahon wasn't a bad hire. Particularly when compared with the other SEC hires made this past offseason. In fact, you could argue he may have been more accomplished than Wade when he was hired away from VCU (though VCU is a stronger program than Murray St.). The reality is, for whatever reason, McMahon is simply not getting it done right now. This roster doesn't match up with Tennessee, Alabama, etc. We know that. But it should be more than good enough to not get run out of the gym every night. Other teams with equal or lesser talent have at least been able to compete with Alabama, Tennessee, Auburn, even Texas A&M this season whereas LSU looked defeated before the 10:00 mark of the first half.



I’m book marking your post because it is spot on.
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