re: So, LSU Baseball players had the same problem? No 24/7 access to batting cage?

Since we are 12 pages into this shite show, I think it’s a good time to recap Buckeye Jeaux’s positiond over the past 24 hours.

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Until Bregman, looks like the players had to break into the equipment room to get after-hours hitting reps - like Landry and Beckham for Jugs reps.

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So to be clear, your original contention was that players did not have after-hours access to batting cages or JUGS machines. Let’s keep that in mind as we continue..

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Access is under the control of someone in the athletic dept. Someone in that department is making access difficult. I don't care what their title is. They should be straightened out, or shite-canned.

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This was in reference to the batting cages with seemingly no awareness that a) the key cards have been in-place since 2014 and b) student managers would come unlock the batting cages at all hours for Bregman, the subject of the tweet that started this shitshow.

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What I said is plenty clear enough. You want details to get someone ratted out. Go F yourself.

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Response to a simple question asking to clarify your position, so I take this to mean we should take everything you say at face value.

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!. Beckham and Landry had to break in to get use of the Jugs.

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You still seem to think that the words “break in” in an article that you read literally mean that they climbed in through a window or something. I guess hyperbole is over your head.

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2 Before Bregman, no one had after hours access to the batting cages. Did al players get cards, or just Bregman?

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We have proven that players have been given all the after-hours access to the batting cages they wanted, and that the key cards were for the student managers’ convenience.

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3. There has been no stated policy by LSU football that receivers now have access to the Jugs sufficient to get them 100 reps a day in 365 days a year (like the pros and major programs provide to their receivers)

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We have not seen any such stated policy from another program, either. I did share a link to an article referencing Grant Delpit’s after-hours reps, which you seem to have conveniently ignored.

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You took my comment out of context, and you are now attempting to twist your way out of an apology. And you have sprung up out of nowhere like a damn alter. i'm putting you in time-out. If you continue this BS tomorrow, I will put you perminently on the dusty shelf, next to Madcow. Have a great night.

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Back to the main point. LSUs WRs weren't catching the ball at an elite level in 2018.

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Back to the main point.. even though this thread was about baseball.

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And in the past 5 years there are published reports that Bregman. Landry, and Beckham all had problems getting off-season reps.

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Please link to reports of problems getting off-season reps. The reports you are fixating on are talking about after-hours reps, and nowhere do they indicate that any of the players you’ve listed had “problems” getting them.

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And yes, I've bitched about this before, and I will again until I hear on good authority that the receivers are getting their machine reps.

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Please define what you mean by “on good authority”, TIA.

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Do your homework. The batting cage was locked up. They installed the card access and gave him a card because he had to contact student managers every time he wanted to use it on off hours.

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Translation: “Bregman had access at all hours any time he requested it before 2014. Then we installed a key card system to make it even easier. But for some reason I’m bitching about it 5 years later even though it has nothing to do with the current state of the LSU baseball team’s hitting abilities.”

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Are you claiming they are each getting 100 reps a day? I'm absolutely stating they are not.

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You state this with no proof, while telling people to prove you wrong.

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Do you seriously think that mgr hopped to it every time Bregman wanted to work out?

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Let’s play your game.. do you seriously think the manager didn’t? Do you have any evidence to back up that claim?

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And what if the S&C guy wasn't the HC's hire? Would the S&C guy feel obligated to report undue pressure to compliance? For pressure to do something that might be an NCAA violation?

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Wait I thought the issue was access to training equipment. Now the problem is compliance? Make up your mind. What are you complaining about?

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It is an NCAA absurd rules issue. An HC can fly a kid in from Hawaii, all expenses paid. But he can't buy a hungry kid a cheeseburger in an unscheduled visit.

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Oh ok so now it’s an NCAA problem. Got it.

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lostinbr

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Oh ok so now it’s an NCAA problem. Got it.

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This is where I finally gave up and said the blame train was getting too long.

Supposedly this has been going on since at least the off-season before 2013. That would mean that in 6 full years that no one has ever mentioned to the head coach that they can't get to the machines, not in exit interviews or anything. On top of that, the head coach has never been a part of the off season workout plans or structure to say that I want the players to be doing this and that and even if he did say so, the SCC can say no. It's so ludicrous that it's one of the most brilliant troll jobs yet.

There was another fallacy I didn’t even notice in this quote:

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Do your homework. The batting cage was locked up. They installed the card access and gave him a card because he had to contact student managers every time he wanted to use it on off hours.

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He’s telling people to “do their homework” on the Bregman batting cage story after he called on equipment managers to be fired on the first page!

He clearly had no idea a) that Bregman had access to the batting cages before the key cards and b) that the cards were made available to all players. The only reason he was able to quote that Ross Dellenger article from 2015 was because I linked him to it. Yet he tells others to “do their homework”..

How much do you want to bet that he also didnt realize the new batting cages had only been open for a few years when Bregman came to LSU, or that the entire facility is being upgraded now?

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Why do you think the WRs don’t?

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Gee. let me guess... Maybe because Moffitt is a body builder coach, and in the decades he's been at LSU, he has IGNORED the needs of receivers. And now, he permits receivers to "make reservations" for a Jugs. But he blatantly fails to have Jugs machines permanently set up so that all receivers get 100 reps a day.

And Moffitt has failed to REQUIRE the receivers to do their reps in the offseason in the same way he does require other S&C drills.

Oh yeah. Then there's the segment of the "fan Base" who desperately desires "hardware", but is violently opposed to putting any pressure on Moffitt to require the Jugs drills absolutely necessary to develop the passing game needed to compete with Bama, Clemson, etc.

You all can go back to sleep now... nighty night :)

Man you just don’t quit do you?

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Gee. let me guess... Maybe because Moffitt is a body builder coach, and in the decades he's been at LSU, he has IGNORED the needs of receivers.

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According to whom?

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And now, he permits receivers to "make reservations" for a Jugs.

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So you admit that they do have after-hours access if they want it?

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But he blatantly fails to have Jugs machines permanently set up so that all receivers get 100 reps a day.

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Where are the machines located?

How many Jugs machines does LSU own?

How many reps a day are our WR’s doing?

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Oh yeah. Then there's the segment of the "fan Base" who desperately desires "hardware", but is violently opposed to putting any pressure on Moffitt to require the Jugs drills absolutely necessary to develop the passing game needed to compete with Bama, Clemson, etc.

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Plot twist - Buckeye Jeaux is a sales rep for Jugs Sports.

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Moffitt should REQUIRE the reps in the offseason

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prove that he doesn’t


Also answer the questions have been asked:

How many jugs machines does LSU have? How much time per day is allocated to using them for each position?
What is the day by day routine as required by Moffitt?

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There are a ton of knowledgeable and/or connected folks around here,

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One of the sharpest knives in the drawer is Rohan. He was super-high on the new offense before the Spring game, but had real reservations after the inexcusable drops in the Spring game.

LSU can win 10 or more regular season games with the status quo at WR/TE/RB skill-sets but that level will need vast improvement to win at the playoff level.

Moffitt is stuck in the 1990's as to the needs of elite receivers. Woody should light a fire under his a$$.

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Oh yeah. Then there's the segment of the "fan Base" who desperately desires "hardware", but is violently opposed to putting any pressure on Coach O to require the Jugs drills absolutely necessary to develop the passing game needed to compete with Bama, Clemson, etc.

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I have NO problem with putting pressure on O, E, and Brady to get a functioning Jugs area for the regular season. No problem whatsoever. And no problem calling out Moffitt for the offseason failure.

I'm guessing Landry and Beckham would help design something state-of-the-art (or would know who to call to consult on it).

If Woody got behind it, it would be a done deal. And they could do something temporary in the next couple weeks that would help in a more permanent design.