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re: So Darron Thomas is in a car...
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:27 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:27 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Why don't you name it?
Grand theft Auto.
He is underage and thus unable to even rent the car. furthermore if you read a rental car CONTRACT it specifically states that all DRIVERS with valid LICENSES are to be listed.
If the car is in possession of another individual who is NOT on the contract, then the car is thought to have been stolen as there is violation of the contract between the rental agency and the reenter.
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Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:29 pm to RummelTiger
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I could also argue that their training likely suffered do to the effects, as well.
Yeah, exccept that you'd actually have to prove it. I could argue that it helped their training, but I'd have to prove that too.
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Yeah, and if they're not smoking the weed, then they don't have to worry about the law, so...
Well, that's putting the cart before the horse, isn't it?
What if there wasn't a law? Then would they have had to worry about the law? Would weed have hurt them if there was no law against weed?
Uh, no.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:29 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Really? Regardless of what the actual LAW states should be done or not done?
WTF are you talking about?
The OR posters have already said that all were arrest able offenses, but the officer CHOSE not to do so.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:30 pm to JDubOregon
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The car wasn't rented by an AD employee to start off with. DT denies smoking the weed. So you have DT riding in a car with a player who was driving 18? And you think that warrants suspension?
Chip, meet Jim Tressell.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:31 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Yeh I wish I could drive 120 and smoke weed and not have to worry about the cops
Damn, you say THAT like it's a bad thing
It is a bad thing. Anyone who believes driving at 120 mph while under the influence is a good thing is either retarded or under 12 years of age.
When we get behind the wheel of a car our responsibilities shift from self to others. If you can't understand that reasoning I feel sorry for you.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:31 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Yeah, exccept that you'd actually have to prove it. I could argue that it helped their training, but I'd have to prove that too.
Yes, because we all know that smoking ANYTHING helps world-class athletes.
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Well, that's putting the cart before the horse, isn't it?
lol...NO.
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What if there wasn't a law?
Well there is, so...
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Would weed have hurt them if there was no law against weed?
Unlessssssss - it harmed them physically - like you stated earlier.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:33 pm to CptBengal
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then the car is thought to have been stolen
Don't bring your high-falutin legalese crap in here.
Your shite is lame, and you are just out to burn a witch.
The players probably did not get any special treatment by the police.
If you find proof that a non-OU athelete was jailed for the exact same circumstances, you'd have a point. But until then you do not.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:34 pm to RummelTiger
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Unlessssssss - it harmed them physically
Did it?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:35 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Why couldnt they just call Mr.Lyles to get his arse at the airport
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:37 pm to RummelTiger
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The OR posters have already said that all were arrest able offenses, but the officer CHOSE not to do so.
Rummy, would you please specify any and all offenses that were arrestable?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:40 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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If you find proof that a non-OU athelete was jailed for the exact same circumstances, you'd have a point. But until then you do not.
Let's take a look at the suspended license aspect.
It sounds like they take it pretty seriously up there.
Surely he won't get any special treatment. I'm sure they'll throw the book at him. I wonder if Harris has a good lawyer?
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Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:49 pm to RummelTiger
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The OR posters have already said that all were arrest able offenses, but the officer CHOSE not to do so.
Driving 118 mph is not in and of itself an arrestable offense in Oregon. Neither is driving with a suspended license. Oregon deals with both problems by slapping you with heavy fines. You won't get arrested or thrown in jail unless you can't pay the fine.
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Grand theft auto is definitely arrestable. Should the officer have pursued that? Maybe he dropped the ball there.
Possession of marijuana? Less than an ounce in Oregon wouldn't get you arrested. It would get you a fine. Should he have searched the car? That's a fair point. Harris actually told him to go ahead and search the car.
As I see it, it's a fair criticism of the officer to ask why he didn't follow up on the rental car angle or why he didn't search the car.
But under Oregon law, most people in this state (not just Duck football players) would not get arrested for driving 118 on a suspended license so long as they could pass the field sobriety test. You would (as Harris did) pay a shitload of fines.
I'd still like to know who really got him the money to pay his fines and who the "unidentified person" was that paid for the rental car.
This post was edited on 8/17/11 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:54 pm to lsuFANstuckNtexas
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The cop completely changed his tone of voice when he found out they were uo football players... Just sayin
(LONG. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE LONG< SIMPLY DO NOT READ)
Oh no, I agree with you. There were 3 funny moments on that tape. 1)"where you boys from", answer: "Eugene", question "who's go the pot". lol (you see, any Oregonian knows if you are from Eugene chances are you smoke pot). 2)funny was, "so where is the Pot". Answer: "We smoked it all". lol,,,,,,,,,I rolled on the floor when I heard that. 3)When the cop pulls him out back to test him. When he lines him up to do the test he notices his ring on. And he asks, "is that the PAC 10 championship ring?" Answer: Ya. "Can I please take a look at it". And then he has to drool over it, lol,,,,,,,,,,,,,lol,,,,,,,,,
So ya, your right. But it was so obvious he was not a Oregon fan though as he did not recognize DT, plus he did not know who Masoli was. And he even admitted he did not follow UO football to the other cop. But ya, I bet ya, that guy probably never met a sports star in his life and was indeed awe struck. lol Funny as shite! And Cliffy is just standing there thinking, "WTF". And btw, for those that do not know him well or seen him in interviews, Cliffy has a baby face, all the dimples, looks younger then shite and acts like a innocent acting young boy. He acts like a little adorable boy. And his personality is like having a little ball boy on your team. And even more, he comes across as one that is probably the dumbest guy you ever met. But we all love him because he is so innocent acting. Many call him Cliffy. Someone asked me why I call him that. We just do. He really is like a little boy among men. And he is really small and tiny. But he plays like a NFL type star guy. And he is cockier then hell. For instance, when he flew up to Oregon and met his teammates for the first time in the team meeting, he stood up and said, "Hello. My name is Cliff Harris and I am a Corner Back. And I am here to lock shite down". And all the players and coaches looked at each other like, WTF? But in time they would see he can back up his words on the field. And us UO fans cannot get enough of CLiff. He is the most comical guy. And the media love to interview him the most because he is too stupid to blurt things right out the media bait him with and he always has tons of soundbites that are funnier then shite.
If you want to see what I am talking all about, and how young he looks and acts and why we adore his personality(even besides his playing skills) you need to see the really short interview of him.
Cliff Harris interviewAnd btw, it was Cliffy saying OSU was the little brother(the media baited him perfectly)that caused UO coaches to be upset with him and they banned him from doing interviews after that, lol. And that comment got spun as if he out and said it on his own(and not baited)and it was like slamming OSU and it got OSU all fired up because honestly, OSU and UO have never been one up over the other of who is bigger or anything over here. There has never been a big brother or little brother over here. Chip Kelly always wants our players to not give fuel to the other teams in their press comments. In the State of Oregon, that CLiffy comment got so blown out of proportion and it was almost to OSU fans as if he said OSU is not a real program. And to CLiffy, he did not even know at the time he did something wrong with the State of Oregon's culture and something you do not do.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:57 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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And btw, it was Cliffy saying OSU was the little brother(the media baited him perfectly)
With a roach?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 2:02 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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I Chuckle seeing LSU fans trying to dig at something that is not there.
We don't have to dig far for BCS crystal footballs and Oregon doesn't have to dig far for a billion Nike dollars
Posted on 8/17/11 at 2:03 pm to pdxlsufan
From your link:
Captain Gregg stressed that the drop in citations in 2008 does not indicate the dangers associated with high speed drivers disappeared. The following are several examples from 2008 of those who didn't seem to get the message. Most were stopped and cited or arrested, but as you will note a couple were involved in a more serious incident because they were driving at dangerous speeds.
Captain Gregg stressed that the drop in citations in 2008 does not indicate the dangers associated with high speed drivers disappeared. The following are several examples from 2008 of those who didn't seem to get the message. Most were stopped and cited or arrested, but as you will note a couple were involved in a more serious incident because they were driving at dangerous speeds.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 2:03 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Did it?
Didn't it?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 2:05 pm to bisonduck
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Please end the maddness and stop. THIS IS MY LAST POST REGARDING THE SUBJECT - please make it your as well.
Sounds good to me. This is getting old as dirt. Its as if something new just happened. This happened back in May.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 2:08 pm to RummelTiger
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Most were stopped and cited or arrested
Those weren't exactly carbon copy cases, Rummy.
Most of those cases involved other offenses like people who did NOT pass the sobriety test and were charged with DUII or people who were swerving.
Harris wasn't swerving according to the officer. He passed the sobriety test. He cooperated. He didn't try to evade. Pulled over promptly.
If Harris had failed the field sobriety test, he definitely would have been arrested. Ditto if he tried to evade.
But speeding alone won't do it.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 2:09 pm to JDubOregon
Louisiana and Oregon are just really different.
The player would have absolutely been arrested/suspended down here.
Nothing against the state of Oregon. It's just different up there.
The player would have absolutely been arrested/suspended down here.
Nothing against the state of Oregon. It's just different up there.
This post was edited on 8/17/11 at 2:10 pm
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