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So Burrow is #37 in the NCAA in Total QBR

Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:22 am
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:22 am
Not too shabby.

Everyone who has been watching Burrow closely probably won't be surprised by this.

Who woulda thought that stats sans context could be deceiving?

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Unlike NCAA Passer Efficiency, which uses only box score statistics, Total QBR accounts for what a quarterback does on a play-by-play level, meaning it accounts for down, distance, field position, as well as the clock and score. A 5-yard gain on third-and-4 is a good play, whereas a 5-yard gain on third-and-14 isn't. A 20-yard touchdown pass when tied in the second quarter means more than a 20-yard touchdown pass when down 30 points late in the fourth quarter. QBR accounts for those things using analysis that turns traditional productivity into points on the scoreboard and wins in the standings.

It also accounts for a quarterback's ability to scramble, his ability to run on designed rush plays, how well he avoids sacks, drawing and committing penalties, and all-important fumbles, which can be significant for quarterbacks.



Explanation of total QBR
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28363 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:31 am to
Just imagine where he could be if his receivers knew how to get open AND his OC could design plays to bust receivers open?

Burrow has been on target all year. Unfortunately, 60% of the time there is a DB running almost step for step with his intended WR.

LSU HAS a QB. Now it's time to put him in better positions to make plays.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:31 am to
I would hope anyone watching LSU sees that Burrow's accuracy isn't an issue.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:43 am to
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I would hope anyone watching LSU sees that Burrow's accuracy isn't an issue.


This

He throws it away when he needs to and we have had several drops. I haven't seen him miss many throws.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:44 am to
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I would hope anyone watching LSU sees that Burrow's accuracy isn't an issue.


Yeah I'm not sure why it keeps getting tossed around. LSU's receivers have been a bigger problem, and it's not particularly close.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 9:46 am
Posted by Spotswoode
Mount Rushmore
Member since Aug 2018
1594 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:52 am to
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Unfortunately, 60% of the time there is a DB running almost step for step with his intended WR.

This is total bullcrap. Go back, watch the game. Burrow has open receivers quite often. Where we’ve struggled to get receivers open is when we’ve max protected because Traore can’t pass block. That’s a talent problem on the oline depth, not on the receivers or the coaches. When Saahdiq and Magee are back, with Deculus, these problems will be gone.

Don’t expect to see WRs running free, though. This is modern college football. They cover receivers. If the receiver has a step he’s open. The QB has to get it there, and the receiver has to make the catch in traffic. So far, the QB has done fairly well (not great) and the receivers have had some great moments (against Auburn) and some concentration problems that have led to drops.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:54 am to
He’s had a different Oline every week. As they settle in he will improve as will the WR’s getting open. Dee is starting to break out. Justin is legit. Sullivan is improving. Chase is solid. Two huge X factors that we need are Marshall and Dillon. Both have legit speed to break big plays. They must get more consistent. If they do Burrow will start hitting 55% and 250+ more often
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79139 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:54 am to
he throws an extremely catchable ball

which makes it all the more puzzling that our wideouts are dropping them
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:55 am to
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1 Tua Tagovailoa, ALA


Goddamnit
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79139 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:56 am to
Jimbo has Mond at #9 already?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:06 am to
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Jimbo has Mond at #9 already?



Jimbo is a great coach.

Whodathunkit.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:08 am to
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Jimbo has Mond at #9 already?


It's almost like he knows how to coach the position or something.

Why are people surprised? He's done it time and time again. Mond isn't some phenom, he's just being coached well.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22766 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:09 am to
Another thread with tiger fans sucking off Jimbo!!!!
Posted by Eskimo_Breaux
East Texas
Member since Nov 2015
293 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:10 am to
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Unfortunately, 60% of the time there is a DB running almost step for step with his intended WR.

This is total bullcrap. Go back, watch the game. Burrow has open receivers quite often. Where we’ve struggled to get receivers open is when we’ve max protected because Traore can’t pass block. That’s a talent problem on the oline depth, not on the receivers or the coaches. When Saahdiq and Magee are back, with Deculus, these problems will be gone.

Don’t expect to see WRs running free, though. This is modern college football. They cover receivers. If the receiver has a step he’s open. The QB has to get it there, and the receiver has to make the catch in traffic. So far, the QB has done fairly well (not great) and the receivers have had some great moments (against Auburn) and some concentration problems that have led to drops.


This is spot on. The max protect formations have to stop. You are essentially forfeiting to a punt by doing this. Give Joe a play to check to when he reads the defense and sees a blitz coming. You have to put the ball in someone’s hands on 3rd down and at least give them a chance to make a play. Having two WR’s trying to get open vs 4 defensive backs will never, ever work. Against any defense.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:10 am to
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Another thread with tiger fans sucking off Jimbo!!!!


Sooo, you think as a Tiger fan you are forbidden from giving any credit to any other player or coach outside the program?
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22766 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:11 am to
Well considering his results thus far...I’d say you certainly looking to cock cobble.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 10:12 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:12 am to
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tiger fans sucking off Jimbo!!!!


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cock cobble


That's funny, you're the one that seems to have some kind of phallic fixation.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 10:14 am
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22766 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:13 am to
That’s funny I surprised you could type with Jimbos nuts obstructing your view of the screen.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:13 am to
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Well considering his results thus far...I’d say you certainly looking to cock cobble.



A&M looked terrible under Sumlin and now looks really strong in year 1 with Jimbo. Their offense, especially QB play, is noticeably stronger.

They are in the SEC West and a rival of ours. We should pay attention to this.

Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:14 am to
Shea Patterson at 49. Not too good for where you would figure he should be at
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