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re: Skip spoke after Paul

Posted on 5/28/21 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3602 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 7:40 pm to
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Florida laughs in your face for this. They are national champs (and SEC co-champs)


Florida laughs in my face? I don’t get it. Congratulations to them on winning the CWS. I never said they didn’t.

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Meaningless


You asked when was the last time we were #1. I told you. You just want to keep moving the goalposts? I provided you with the resumes of the other coaches and programs that people like to throw out as being so much better than PM and LSU. PM has won the SEC two more times than Tim Corbin in less time. He’s won it one less time than O’Sullivan who has had great first round talent on their pitching staffs
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 7:45 pm
Posted by TigahDave
Member since Jan 2020
29 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 7:42 pm to
That’s not the issue. We all know Paul did a great job and won a Natty. That’d doesn’t mean it’s wrong to notice when a coach is past his prime. He was a good coach, but its still a good time for him to move one. Good for him to recognize that and make the decision now.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
20379 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 7:42 pm to
Paul beat Corbin twice for SEC tourney titles...
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3602 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 7:44 pm to
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Paul beat Corbin twice for SEC tourney titles...


Yeah I saw you post that to him. He doesn’t want to hear that. It doesn’t fit his narrative
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22466 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 8:21 pm to
There's only one Skip Bertman, and he casts a large shadow over the program. Paul is Paul, He'll never be Skip but no one will be. I know I wouldn't want to be the next coach coaching with both of them in the stands.
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3592 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 8:33 pm to
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top recruiting class every year


LSU’s recruiting classes have ranked top 5 the last 4 years. Have they finished the season anywhere near the top 5 in any of those years? You sure you want to use this argument?
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3602 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:13 pm to
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LSU’s recruiting classes have ranked top 5 the last 4 years. Have they finished the season anywhere near the top 5 in any of those years? You sure you want to use this argument?


Yes, I am. Not my fault you misunderstood the argument. Recruiting rankings are nowhere near an exact science and anyone who thinks LSU has had better recruiting classes than Vandy isn’t paying attention. And when you can give every player a scholarship, you have no excuse for not getting the number 1 recruiting class. That was my point.
Posted by Ugozuna
FL
Member since Jan 2009
531 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:15 pm to
Too soft compared to Skip
Posted by Ugozuna
FL
Member since Jan 2009
531 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:18 pm to
It can work but with his medical issues - dunno and the impact
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3592 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:44 pm to
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Not my fault you misunderstood the argument.


Seems like your argument is that Vandy is good because the get good players. According to the rankings, LSU gets good players too. Are you sure you understand your argument?

Also seems like you change your argument when people call you out, though, so I don’t know why I’m wasting my time.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3602 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:48 pm to
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Seems like your argument is that Vandy is good because the get good players. According to the rankings, LSU gets good players too. Are you sure you understand your argument?


My argument was that Vandy has no excuse to not have the best recruiting class. That’s pretty simple. Of course LSU gets good players. LSU doesn’t have the ability to offer 1st round talent full scholarships and convince them to come to school on a regular basis. Getting a Dylan Crews is rare for LSU. Vandy routinely gets high draft picks to come to school and that is a major advantage that other teams don’t have.

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Also seems like you change your argument when people call you out, though, so I don’t know why I’m wasting my time.


Really? What argument did I change?
Posted by TruthSpeaker225
Member since Apr 2021
574 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:58 pm to
Damn right. Great post
Posted by HK53
Oneonta, Al.
Member since Feb 2010
393 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:24 pm to
Reportedly Skip says differently in private
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3602 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:25 pm to
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Reportedly Skip says differently in private


Just like all of PM’s players hate him in private according to rant posters who are in the know. Right? Who reported on it?
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 10:26 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59125 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 10:28 pm to
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Skip realizes you can’t have the success he had in the college game today, yet somehow so many of this fan base can’t recognize that.

there is a whole lot of real estate between building the Intimidator and praying for a regional bid.

Most understand the game has changed. But some programs and coaches are adapting nicely. We were not.

And I like PM just fine.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20029 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 5:30 am to
Skip’s words …
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29569 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 7:38 am to
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Is skip the AD now ? Wtf ?
There can’t be a significant baseball announcement at LSU without Skip getting in front of a mic. The entire segment was pretty cringeworthy.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 7:39 am
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6450 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:00 am to
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Skip realizes you can’t have the success he had in the college game today, yet somehow so many of this fan base can’t recognize that.




Honestly, why do people keep regurgitating this narrative that LSU fans, in general, just expect a coach to come in here and repeat what Bertman did? Who ever said that, and why do some of you presume to know what people are thinking?

Nobody in their right mind has THOSE kinds of expectations. Would we like for it to happen? Duh. Who wouldn't? But the reality, if you actually READ and LISTEN to what people actually say, and not what you think they really mean inside of their minds, is that people just want to see a program that is a consistent threat to win it all, and not a stale, do enough to get by sort of program. Because Skip built a standard here that demands we SHOULD expect more than what this program has been lately.

That's the whole point. You don't build something just to watch it fall. You build it for a purpose, and you maintain it the best you can. You don't want fans becoming apathetic and comfortable with being middle of the pack. You want them engaged and expecting success.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 8:02 am
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12764 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:05 am to
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Skip realizes you can’t have the success he had in the college game today,


5 in 10 years is unbelievable and not sure you’ll see a run like that again.

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yet somehow so many of this fan base can’t recognize that.


I think the majority of the fan base expects more than 1 in 15 years....along with players having more baseball awareness than we’ve seen the last few years. Coaching has slipped

Change needed to be made, doesn’t mean he’s not respected
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 8:06 am
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:07 am to
Skip coached at a different time as for the competition was concerned.

1500 wins, a NC, and playing for a 2nd is amazing in the college baseball of today. imo
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