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re: Shaw's response to Sternberger fumble
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:35 am to classicgold
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:35 am to classicgold
at the very least you need to review the Sternberger incomplete pass if you review the Mond knee.
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:36 am to LNCHBOX
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He didn't take two steps with possession of the ball.
He did. The ball is in your possession once you have control of it, which he most certainly immediately did. He wasn't bobbling it.
Your argument equates to "he doesn't have possession until he's had possession for two steps." That doesn't make any sense.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 11:32 am
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:36 am to LNCHBOX
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He didn't take two steps with possession of the ball. Hate to break it to yall, but it wasn't a catch. It sucks, but it is what it is.
please cite the rule you are quoting.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:37 am to UGATiger26
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The ball is in your possession once you have control of it, which he most certainly immediately did. He wasn't bobbling it.
And he only took one step after that.
quote:
Your argument equates to "he can't have possession until he's had possession for two steps." That doesn't make any sense.
It makes sense if you watch what actually happened.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:37 am to LNCHBOX
Why aren't they? Possession should be possession no matter what the scenario is. Both players are trying to gain possession of the ball. How can you subjectively judge that a person picking up a ball immediately has possession, but you can't subjectively judge that a person catching the ball immediately has possession?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:38 am to Dave England
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please cite the rule you are quoting.
The same rule any=one else is. The example video you posted is not the same. The bama RB catches the ball while not moving, takes two steps and then is stripped. That one is much obviously a catch. This is one sis not.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Anyone who can’t accept it at this point simply isn’t being an adult.
We did not get screwed by the refs.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:39 am to classicgold
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Possession should be possession no matter what the scenario is
Well than every place kick should be ruled down before the kick is attempted since the holder's knee is on the ground.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:39 am to foghat
That pass was incomplete imo. The worst and only really bad call imo was the PI on Williams.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:39 am to LNCHBOX
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He most certainly did not. His foot comes down as the ball gets to his hand, he then takes one step and is hit and the ball comes out.
Take the purple and gold glasses off.
That's two steps. Go back to your Aggie or Gump board!
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:40 am to classicgold
quote:No you don’t.
If they can say Kellen Mond had possession of the ball when he instantly touched it with one hand with his knee on the ground; then you have to be consistent and say that Sternberger had possession with both hands on the ball and turning up field.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:41 am to foghat
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That's two steps.
No, it's one.
The step that occurs before the ball is in his hands doesn't count.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:41 am to UGATiger26
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Your argument equates to "he can't have possession until he's had possession for two steps." That doesn't make any sense.
it makes no sense because nowhere in the rule does it say "take two steps".
I'm not sure if thats an NFL thing, but I keep hearing faggies say it as well.
the only keys are did he have "possession" and make an act "common to the game".
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:42 am to Dave England
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number of steps is irrelevant.
Indeed, it's not.
This is all that matters...
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Player Possession: The ball is in player possession when a player has the ball firmly in his grasp by holding or controlling it while contacting the ground inbounds.
Using steps as a basis for possession is inane. Hypothetically, what if a player caught a ball and then just stood there? He's not in possession yet?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:42 am to foghat
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He does not complete the catch.
He had control of that ball, and he fumbled it....period.
Absolutely absurd.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:42 am to Mr.Perfect
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"By rule" but doesn't cite the rule
He knows the people that still don't understand the ruling likely can't read the rule anyway.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:43 am to foghat
Guy picks ball up off the ground with one hand is deemed to be in possession of the ball, but a guy catches it and runs two steps and loses ball but he never had possession!!!
Go figure
Go figure
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:44 am to UGATiger26
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Using steps as a basis for possession is inane. Hypothetically, what if a player caught a ball and then just stood there? He's not in possession yet?
This is your argument?
The play in question does not satisfy having possession long enough to make a move common to the game. Two steps is a measure that officials can use to determine that, as the video Dave posted says.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:45 am to GeorgePaton
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He had control of that ball
Yes, and when he saw he was about to be hit he started to tuck it closer to his side and got hit.
The act of trying to tuck it is a football move.
Obvious fumble.
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