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re: Sending the runner was the right call both times
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:25 am to ForeverLSU02
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:25 am to ForeverLSU02
Probably much better than you
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Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:30 am to AnonymousTiger007
quote:by the time you get finished it will look like this
You dont make the FIRST OR SECOND OR LAST out at third OR home OR first OR second
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:35 am to ForeverLSU02
good one 
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:38 am to AnonymousTiger007
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Probably much better than you
Except you don't. You never make the first or third out at third base. Home has nothing to do with it.
That said, this isn't some unwritten rule that Cain followed. It was a poor judgement call and even worse situational awareness.
When the CF fielded the ball and Breaux hadn't even rounded the base, the stop sign should have gone up. That was the poor judgement. Your most experienced hitter, who also happens to be the hottest at the moment, is coming up next, and you should give him the chance to deliver. Here you have your terrible situational awareness.
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:39 am to Tiger1242
When the outfield is playing shallow and the ball is hit hard almost right too him you don't try to take 2. Baseball 101
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:40 am to AnonymousTiger007
I've played baseball my entire life and I've never heard of "never make the first or last out at home". Could you provide a link to this so I can brush up on my baseball knowledge? 
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:46 am to RB10
quote:I think that Cain misjudged how shallow the ball and probably could have held him up in this instance. I'm still perplexed as to why the play was even close if Breaux was as fast as we thought he was. Under normal circumstances that run scores easily. After reviewing the video again it looks like Breaux got a decent secondary lead and was off as soon as the ball was hit. He was clearly rounding 3B before the CF fielded the ball. I'm not sure if he took a huge turn around 3B or pulled up for some reason, but I just didn't think it would be that close.
When the CF fielded the ball and Breaux hadn't even rounded the base, the stop sign should have gone up.
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:48 am to ForeverLSU02
And? I'm sure many people in this thread have played baseball their whole life. Say what you want. First out ok I'll give you that. Making the last out at home by running on a guy who's already thrown one guy out with your hottest hitter coming up next is ignorant. Especially if the runner doesn't get a good jump. People hoping for a bad throw is ridiculous. This isnt 9-10 little league.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:51 am to AnonymousTiger007
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:53 am to AnonymousTiger007
Dude you are clueless consider what you are saying? You don't make the first or last out at 3rd because it's silly to be over aggressive at 3rd with no outs, and it's dumb to force it with 2 outs because he's in scoring position on 2nd anyway.
With 2 outs you need to be MORE aggressive on sending runners home because nothin is worse than strandin a runner 90ft away, making the 3rd out at home is perfectly acceptable (although not ideal obviously)
With 2 outs you need to be MORE aggressive on sending runners home because nothin is worse than strandin a runner 90ft away, making the 3rd out at home is perfectly acceptable (although not ideal obviously)
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:55 am to Tiger1242
you send the runner with two outs every time. there is a reason some of you don't coach.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:58 am to Tiger1242
Not when the runner hesitates....No it wasn't. The first runner literally stopped in the base path. No no no
The second one the CF was playing so shallow, that when he got the ball, he was damn near on second base.
NEITHER was close. Both were stupid moves that were painfully obvious when the outfielder got the ball he would throw them out.
The second one the CF was playing so shallow, that when he got the ball, he was damn near on second base.
NEITHER was close. Both were stupid moves that were painfully obvious when the outfielder got the ball he would throw them out.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:00 am to ToulatownTiger
I thought it was a no brainer that he was going to score. Here is how the sequence played out in my living room
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:01 am to ForeverLSU02
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:16 am to ToulatownTiger
quote:You don't when it's damn near guaranteed that he's going to be thrown out.
you send the runner with two outs every time. there is a reason some of you don't coach.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:22 am to OneMoreTime
quote:Yep. I think Cain had made up his mind that he would send him regardless with 2 outs on a ball hit to OF before the play even unfolded. Most of time you can assume that he will score easily, but you must make real time adjustments in situations like this.
You don't when it's damn near guaranteed that he's going to be thrown out.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:29 am to OneMoreTime
I actually think Breaux had a terrible jump and route around third. Also on deck batter should have been telling him to slide to inside. Fix all these and he is safe.
Id say its a 50% chance the outfielder makes a bad throw
30% chance the next guy gets a hit.
you take the better odds at all times
Id say its a 50% chance the outfielder makes a bad throw
30% chance the next guy gets a hit.
you take the better odds at all times
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:32 am to OneMoreTime
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damn near guaranteed
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:33 am to ToulatownTiger
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you take the better odds at all times
Correct.
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Id say its a 50% chance the outfielder makes a bad throw
Not even close. This isn't Dixie Youth we're talking about here. Less than 10% chance of a bad throw.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:34 am to RB10
One foot to the right and a good slide and breaux is safe
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 10:34 am
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