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SEC Tournament Bracket
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:36 pm
Why does the SEC Tournament have such a strange format once you get to this point of the tournament? Why have LSU match up with the winner of Kentucky and South Carolina, two teams they already beat, and it be single elimination now? Why now let the losers bracket play out, let LSU play the winner of Vanderbilt/Mississippi State, and eventually have the team playing out of the losers bracket get back to the championship game? Genuinely asking...never quite understood why the bracket set up is the way that it is.
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:37 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Have you ever seen a tournament bracket?
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:38 pm to NWLATigerFan12
I don’t follow the logic either
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:38 pm to hirematthouse
A regular ole double elimination bracket, absolutely...the SEC tournament bracket does not fit that description. 
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:38 pm to NWLATigerFan12
The bracket changes next year.
My only disliking of the current format is that the loser's don't flip to the other side of the bracket so rematches wouldn't happen until the Championship. Like I think Tenn and Texas AM shoulda been flipped to our side and Arkansas and Kentucky to the other after they both lost.
The whole single / double / single thing I don't mind because the amount of pitching you have to use already and really this tournament is just bragging rights, The coaches really only care about the NCAA tournament and use this as live reps and work.
My only disliking of the current format is that the loser's don't flip to the other side of the bracket so rematches wouldn't happen until the Championship. Like I think Tenn and Texas AM shoulda been flipped to our side and Arkansas and Kentucky to the other after they both lost.
The whole single / double / single thing I don't mind because the amount of pitching you have to use already and really this tournament is just bragging rights, The coaches really only care about the NCAA tournament and use this as live reps and work.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:39 pm to NWLATigerFan12
It’s all going to change next year regardless. Next year actually sets up real easy for the top 4 seeds to win it all, as they will get a double bye and their first game won’t be until Thursday.
Essentially allows them to keep their rotation and bullpens in order.
Essentially allows them to keep their rotation and bullpens in order.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:41 pm to Traceg03
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The bracket changes next year.
My only disliking of the current format is that the loser's don't flip to the other side of the bracket so rematches wouldn't happen until the Championship. Like I think Tenn and Texas AM shoulda been flipped to our side and Arkansas and Kentucky to the other after they both lost.
The whole single / double / single thing I don't mind because the amount of pitching you have to use already and really this tournament is just bragging rights, The coaches really only care about the NCAA tournament and use this as live reps and work.
I agree with all of this too. I don't mind the single elimination first round with the lower seeds, then turning into double, then turning back into single elimination at the end once everybody's pitching is exhausted. I just don't like the idea of playing somebody we just played and now they get a 2nd chance. Like you said it would make more sense for us to play the winner of the losers games from the other side of the bracket.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:41 pm to CWILKS3
Did I hear that next year it's going to a single elimination bracket with everybody making the tournament?
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:42 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Round 1 is single elimination
Round 2 is double
Round 3 is double
Round 4 is elimination
Round 5 is single elimination
Round 6 is the championship.
Tuesday losers go home. The winners bracket winners avoid Friday play. It ain't that had to understand.
Round 2 is double
Round 3 is double
Round 4 is elimination
Round 5 is single elimination
Round 6 is the championship.
Tuesday losers go home. The winners bracket winners avoid Friday play. It ain't that had to understand.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:45 pm to dat yat
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Tuesday losers go home. The winners bracket winners avoid Friday play. It ain't that had to understand.
I understand the bracket. I can look at a bracket and figure it out. What I, and apparently other is this thread don't understand, is WHY it is such an irregular format instead of a standard double elimination bracket where there's a clear winners and losers side, where somebody emerges from the losers side to go play the undefeated team in the championship. Like it is now, you could potentially have two 1 loss teams match up in the championship.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:48 pm to NWLATigerFan12
You should see the bracket of the conference that Setson is in. One side of the bracket is pool play and the other is an elimination bracket. Weird.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:54 pm to NWLATigerFan12
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.never quite understood why the bracket set up is the way that it is.
Because every coach in the SEC would absolutely hate their team having to play 6 or 7 games to win the SECT 5 days before the REAL postseason starts. This SECT is mostly exhibition baseball. The coaches do not want to overwork pitchers this weekend and have tired arms next weekend. Therefore, they make it single elimnation on the weekend to shorten the possbility of a team having to overwork their pitching staff.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:00 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Correct ! Stupid logic- you should not get a second bite of the apple if it’s not a total double elimination !
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:04 pm to MarciMoshes
[/url] For those of you acting like I'm crazy and have never seen a bracket before, this is what a "regular" double elimination format bracket would look like. Only thing I couldn't show was the first round of single elimination, but let's assume that they lower seeds had to play in.
Vanderbilt 8 vs Florida 9
South Carolina 10 vs Alabama 7
LSU 11 vs Georgia 6
Ole Miss 12 vs MS State 5
They go exactly like they did and every game up to this point goes like it did (assuming Vanderbilt beats State here). LSU and Vanderbilt would play...winner goes to championship.
Games 9 and 10 would play, then their winners would play, then the winner of that would play loser of LSU Vandy, then finally winner of that plays for championship.
Monday - Play in games listed above, single elimination.
Tuesday - Games 1-4
Wednesday - Games 5-8
Thursday - Games 9-10
Friday - Games 11-12
Saturday - Game 13
Sunday - Game 14 (championship) - don't even have to have it double elimination...it can be winner take all and never play G15 no matter what.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:06 pm to Choupique19
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Because every coach in the SEC would absolutely hate their team having to play 6 or 7 games to win the SECT 5 days before the REAL postseason starts. This SECT is mostly exhibition baseball. The coaches do not want to overwork pitchers this weekend and have tired arms next weekend. Therefore, they make it single elimnation on the weekend to shorten the possbility of a team having to overwork their pitching staff.
I get that and thank you very much for a real answer to the question, not just questioning whether or not I know how to read a bracket
...but realistically the chances of a team going to the losers bracket early and rattling off 6-7 wins is low anyways due to lack of pitching. Even in the current format, there's a chance of a team having to play 6 games in 6 days to win it all. For South Carolina or the loser of MS State/Vanderbilt to win it all, they'd have to do just that. I guess like what was said above, I'd rather see the losers flip in the current format so we LSU would play the winner of TN/whoever instead of the winner of Kentucky/South Carolina. That would make it better to me, instantly. No rematches til championship.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:08 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Try following the big 12 bracket
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:15 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Yeah it is probably the worst format they could have picked.
There is no reason a team you already beat can kick you out of the tournament by beating you after you already beat them. And then your 1-1. Dumb as shite.
Sankey said next year with the addition of Oklahoma and Texas it’s going to be
Single game elimination throughout the tournament.
There is no reason a team you already beat can kick you out of the tournament by beating you after you already beat them. And then your 1-1. Dumb as shite.
Sankey said next year with the addition of Oklahoma and Texas it’s going to be
Single game elimination throughout the tournament.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:15 pm to CaptainJ47
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Try following the big 12 bracket
Just looked it up...it's basically two separate 5 team double elimination brackets where the winner of each side meets in a championship. The 2 sides never swap over or play each other until the championship. The only thing "weird" about it to me, is that the teams can flip spots on the bracket depending on who wins the early games, it basically ensures that a higher seeded team who wins always gets the better draw over a lower seeded team who manages to upset somebody. Not a terrible idea. Why should a 5 seed who wins their game have to play the #1 second game when the #10 sneaks an upset and gets to jump forward to the semi final game. Make that #10 prove themself against the 1/2 seed and let the higher seed (who earned that in the regular season) get the easier draw.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:17 pm to NWLATigerFan12
It's 12 (twelve) teams in the SEC. Double elimination tourneys are 4 per side. If you admit 12, and give 4 byes
, ya gotta get to 8.
Single elimination gets you to 8 in 1 round.
Those 8 go to 4...wait if you can't grasp this crap just lookin at da brackets, you are either an idiot or a commie...
GEAUX TIGAS!!!!!!!
, ya gotta get to 8.
Single elimination gets you to 8 in 1 round.
Those 8 go to 4...wait if you can't grasp this crap just lookin at da brackets, you are either an idiot or a commie...
GEAUX TIGAS!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:20 pm to dat yat
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Those 8 go to 4...wait if you can't grasp this crap just lookin at da brackets, you are either an idiot or a commie...
That part isn't what we are questioning here. I can read a bracket as well as anybody. I understand the format. The question was WHY is it not a traditional double elimination once it is down to 8 teams. Once it gets to 8, it sort of starts off as a true double elimination bracket, but then goes off the rails on the Friday games.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 11:24 pm
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