re: Savion smith has announced he's transferring

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you need to stick with following Colorado State

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Colorado State's head coach has a better winning percentage as a head coach than O.

LOL, an unnamed source article that basically says, "Well LSU had to pay him anyway, so O was given the option to keep him on if he wanted." Real savvy move to not retain the offensive coordinator who was part and parcel of the reason Miles was fired. Who else could have made such a deft decision!

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Can you fricking read? Frank Wilson was the RC for the 2015 class. Dameyune Craig was the RC for the 2016 class.

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From his official LSU bio:

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Orgeron originally joined the Tiger staff in 2015 as defensive line coach, before adding the title of recruiting coordinator in the spring of 2016.

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So are you saying that from spring 2016 to the firing of Les Miles in fall 2016, O didn't perform any duties as a recruiting coordinator? Didn't establish any relationships with recruits? I just want to understand where you're coming from.

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I was asking you to explain how Les Miles would have possibly even known who Austin Thomas was to hire him at LSU in the first place or even the first time. Not did he leave and come back.

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Is this where you give O credit for LSU hiring Austin Thomas in 2013?

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What the frick does that have to do with anything? Just another little jab you thought to throw out to knock the LSU head coach.

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Well, no. One of the main reasons O was supposedly hired was his recruiting prowess. Doesn't speak much for that when he loses a highly-rated recruit at a position of need for which O specifically coached, and who O personally recruited.

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I did not read the entire thread, but could this have anything to do with Guice's tweet the other day about guys just want to be famous without working hard

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I was curious if that was related. Or Willie Allen. Or both. Will never know.

I do like the tweet though. It's better when teammates hold each other accountable. Coaches help, but teammates are the key.

I wasn't impressed with him this past year. He plays slower than his 40 time and he isn't very physical. He got passed up, period. Honestly I'm not surprised by this news at all. I expected him to be better than he was on the field. Got beat several times. That is the thing about img academy. Sure it's the best hs program in the nation without a doubt but it can inflate recruits talent and make them look better than the hey really are. Some players just peak in high school and are great hs players but don't progress their talent and it doesn't translate to the college game. This seemed to be the case with savion smith. I wish he would have stayed but he wasnt all he was pumped u to be. We are dbu, 5 star guys come here and ride the fricking bench. We have serious talent at dB and it's only getting better. Yiu have to be the best of the best dB to even see the field for LSU. Wish him luck and move on, we will be fine.

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Well, no. One of the main reasons O was supposedly hired was his recruiting prowess. Doesn't speak much for that when he loses a highly-rated recruit at a position of need for which O specifically coached, and who O personally recruited.

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Son you are dumb.....

Were you crying when you typed all that?

I'm about 95% sure Savion is going to FSU to play for Jimbo.

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breaking three all-time offensive records

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This stuff again? Look, none of us have a clue as to how this hire will work out and all LSU fans hope its a great hire. Having said that, all that "all time record" stuff doesn't mean much when we come back to play two SEC home games and manage 10 points when playing D's worth a darn.

Personally, I was stunned by the Coach O hire. I cant understand how anyone can look at his resume and come to the conclusion that "this is the best option for LSU football" considering our remarkable run since 2000.

And his buyout??? What was he going to do? Turn down the gig is LSU offered a 3-5 mil buyout? It's not personal, it's business. Joe went wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy out on the limb with this. Hope it works!

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Seems rather contradictory to me??

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It isn't at all. You can not know the future, but still think that things don't look good.

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I cant understand how anyone can look at his resume and come to the conclusion that "this is the best option for LSU football" considering our remarkable run since 2000.

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No you just can't allow yourself to accept the fact that his resume actually continues beyond last decade's stint at Ole Miss.

And "anyone" who looks at the changes he has made since taking over the LSU program knows that all of them have improved the team from what it was at the beginning of the season.

Fired:
Cameron
Peveto
Craig
Juluke

Extended:
Aranda

Promoted:
Dennis Johnson (Meatball)

Hired:
Tommie Robinson
Matt Canada
Mickey Joseph
Pete Jenkins

Changed practice to save players from being totally worn out.
"head coach Ed Orgeron’s new policy of shorter practices and more time in the film and meeting rooms. “I’ll sleep more,” Etling said. “When I had to watch it on my own, I’d end up staying up late.” Orgeron felt Miles had the team beating itself up too much."

Ran off all of the other major programs trying to hold camps in Louisiana.

Getting away from the conservative, unimaginative offenses of the past.
"When he was interim head coach at USC, the Trojans were a more balanced team that utilized its running backs and receivers somewhat evenly."

He’s also inviting former players to practice and letting them join the team on the traditional walk down “Victory Hill” before games.

At what point do people stop looking at last decade to bitch about hiring a new coach?

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considering our remarkable run since 2000.

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Yeah, people in this thread have a revisionist type of memory - much like with Coach O's resume. Some clown in this thread asked why Coach O was qualified to take over a top 5 program like LSU.

2015 final rankings AP: 16 Coaches: 17
2014 final rankings AP: 0-NR Coaches: 23
2013 final rankings AP: 14 Coaches: 14
2013 final rankings AP: 14 Coaches: 12

That shite aint a remarkable run by any stretch of the imagination. In the same time frame listed above Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Auburn, South Carolina, Missouri, Georgia, TX A&M and Florida have finished as a top 10 program - NO LSU in the top 10 for the last five seasons !!!

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And his buyout???

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There are separate threads on O's buyout. Basically, it is standard among college football programs. By the time (3 years) it would come into affect it would be next to nothing.

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What was he going to do? Turn down the gig is LSU offered a 3-5 mil buyout?

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I hope you never/ever bitch about recruiting. LSU would lose recruits to Vanderbilt if Coach O didn't at least have the standard buyout in his clause. A LOT of the recruits and their parents are pretty gullible and opposing coaches would use a "NO or LOW" buyout clause to recruit against LSU better than if every player that went to their program the last five years is now a star in the NFL.

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It's not personal, it's business

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Deep stuff.

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Hope it works!

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You didn't have to say this. It was pretty obvious when reading the rest of your post. Ha Ha