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Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:52 pm to Fishhead
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I haven't defended JJ. I've defended the coaches decisions...as it is theirs to make, because they are more qualified to make it than you or anyone else on a message board.
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And yes, I've read the 'first hand accounts'. But quite frankly, they get lost in the constant drivel from posters completely misquoting them. After all, Mett plays with the walk ons like Wright and Fobbs.
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Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Which is?
We can revisit this later but I feel pretty sure my opinion will be validated.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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JJ wasn't better than Lee last year
At times he was, just like Lee was better at times. It isn't like Lee just lit it up every time he stepped on the field.
And I was a guy that got called out for being a JJ hater after the North Carolina game for pointing out that he made multiple mistakes, so it isn't like I'm always defending him or anything.
This post was edited on 4/2/11 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:52 pm to JJ27
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Do you READ the 1st hand accounts from practices/scrimmages or do you ONLY defend JJ tirelessly?
yes, throwing downfield more, more up tempo stuff, reports of Ware running the wildcat, one practice vid showed Ware throwing a swing pass...I'm sure they've dumped Crowton's multi-read passing game.
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Did you watch the putrid LSU offense last season? It just gets unreadable on here.
so you're in favor of dumping everything and starting over? go ahead and throw away this year?
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:52 pm to Roaad
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RogerTheShrubber
You are losing your objectivity, if you ever had it.
I get it. You really don't like Jefferson.
Your blindness is becoming too clear. What is your fascination with JJ? 
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I am not sure how we can say Lee was "considerably worse" than JJ last year... I mean I don't think Lee at his worse last year looked as bad as Jefferson against Vanderbilt/West Virginia. That may just be me though...
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:53 pm to tduecen
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I am not sure how we can say Lee was "considerably worse" than JJ last year.
I don't believe that is even possible.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I don't have one.
Just curious, what is your fascination or attachment to JJ?
I look at the season objectively.
People think I have am a "fan" of JJ because I don't toe the party line.
I think JJ is awful. I just don't think Lee is a better option.
I'm still pulling for Mett.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:JJ definitely was the worst I've seen early on. But he did play better later in the season, and you can't discount those games...including the bowl game. Lee started off better, and regressed.
If you consider his "legs" to be what makes him superior, so be it. JJ wasn't better than Lee last year. In fact he was the worst QB I have seen at LSU. I think you are unable to look at this situation objectively.
quote:Definitely. That's the thing. It's spring, and Mett hasn't even completed a spring camp yet. He's got time to show if he's better than JJ and JL. Let's see how they look in fall camp before we crown either. I bet the coaches do.
JJ has nowhere to go but up. He has to improve, I suppose. If Mettenberger can't beat JJ out on a level playing field with JJ performing as he did last year, I will worry about the season
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:What is yours?
What is your fascination with JJ?
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:55 pm to Roaad
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I think JJ is awful. I just don't think Lee is a better option.
I'm still pulling for Mett.
Your post history doesn't support this, but I will take your word for it.
My hope is Mett as well, since I don't have much faith in JJ. But things can change, JJ will certainly be the starting QB when Fall comes around and will get his chance to make believers once again.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:55 pm to Fishhead
quote:That is exactly what I saw.
JJ definitely was the worst I've seen early on. But he did play better later in the season, and you can't discount those games...including the bowl game. Lee started off better, and regressed.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:57 pm to Roaad
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What is yours?
None. I praised JJ after the Cotton. My hopes for him were sky high following the win over GT. He just lost my faith. As he has most of the fan base.
Right now I am hoping Mettenberger can pull this thing out. If not, LSU will need a lot of luck this year.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:59 pm to Roaad
quote:If one looks at the whole season, and entire games instead of picking out one or two good passes from Lee, it's impossible to dispute this.
JJ definitely was the worst I've seen early on. But he did play better later in the season, and you can't discount those games...including the bowl game. Lee started off better, and regressed.
That is exactly what I saw.
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That said, JJ started off SO poorly, it's hard to look beyond that. He was terrible against Vandy and WVU, and didn't really start progressing until Bama.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:My post history has been. . .since McNeese St.
Your post history doesn't support this
JJ sucks, but JL sucks a little bit more.
It flies in the face of the "conventional wisdom" of the rant. . .so people feel like they need to label me a "JJ lover" or a "Lee hater".
quote:I don't either, and my post history DOES support this. . .
My hope is Mett as well, since I don't have much faith in JJ.
From yesterday
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If JJ can speed up his release (won't happen), and if Lee can step into his throws(yeah, right). . .they can be really, really good. Until then, they will have to be serviceable placeholders for Mett, imho
Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:01 am to Fishhead
quote:I've wondered how much was regression and how much it had to do with his hand injury against Auburn and getting less and less reps. Could he have hurt his hand worse than believed against Auburn and tried to hide it? .
Lee started off better, and regressed
Hell from Tennessee game to Auburn game Lee had 62 pass attempts more than Jefferson even. Yet after that game he had 25 in last 5 games....
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 12:02 am
Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:02 am to Fishhead
He played well against Ole Miss and in the Cotton. JJ has the talent, he just doesn't play up to it and isn't consistent.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Same here. Some time with the WR's in the summer would go a long way.
Right now I am hoping Mettenberger can pull this thing out.
quote:If what BilJ is saying about Krags cleaning up JJ's release are accurate, we might not need so much luck.
If not, LSU will need a lot of luck this year.
I remain skeptical. . .but I have now heard positive reviews of his progress from 2 of his biggest detractors.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 12:03 am to Fishhead
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didn't really start progressing until Bama.
Bye week. Any LSU fan with any knowledge knows JJ does well with extra time to prepare. His best games have always been after a layoff. That's another reason why he'll be the starter against Oregon. He's going to have a good game then too btw.
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