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re: Saturday Down South grades all SEC D coordinators: gives Aranda an A.

Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:34 pm to
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Aranda underperformed his salary this year. It is what it is.


Aranda is the highest paid DC in the country because Alleva knows he fricked up making Orgeron HC.

Losing Aranda would make this house of cards come tumbling down all that much faster.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:36 pm to
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Losing Aranda would make this house of cards come tumbling down all that much faster.


And yet the O sycophants seem intent on running him out of town. It’s odd.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:39 pm to
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Yikes. What did E do then?


Made over three times less money for one. Didn't have 3 1st team All-Americans or two guaranteed 1st round draft picks in this year's NFL draft and probably more first round draft picks including Delpit and Fulton for another.

Could you imagine what Slinger would have done with a 1st team all-American at QB like White of the defense, a 1st team all-American at RB in the backfield like Greedy, and a 1st team all-American at WR like Delpit? Maybe another high draft pick at WR like LSU had in Fulton?
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:40 pm to
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Yikes. What did E do then?


E got a C and O got an A.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:41 pm to
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Made over three times less money for one.


And yet still underperformed.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:42 pm to
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Could you imagine what Slinger would have done with a 1st team all-American at QB like White of the defense, a 1st team all-American at RB in the backfield like Greedy, and a 1st team all-American at WR like Delpit? Maybe another high draft pick at WR like LSU had in Fulton?


You don't really have to imagine. He out up zero points against Bama in 2016 with NFL talent all over the Offense.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:43 pm to
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You don't really have to imagine. He out up zero points against Bama in 2016 with NFL talent all over the Offense.



Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:50 pm to
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And yet still underperformed.


Didn't both of the coordinators?

Three 1st team all-americans?

Two guaranteed 1st round draft picks that will probably be top 10 picks in the coming NFL draft with at least one other player who will be a 1st round pick - Delpit and possibly two with Fulton.

All that with a decent at least Dline and finished 22nd in scoring defense and 29th in total defense.

For $2.5 million dollars? I don't know how many defensive coaches had 3 1st team all-Americans and multiple 1st draft picks and finished lower in stats. Maybe there were some.

And this isn't to bash Aranda but to think Slinger underperformed while at the same time the defense was the best in the world is ridiculous.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:59 pm to
I notice you didnt give him a grade. Thats all I asked for was a grade. I didnt need you to talk about how his salary compares to Arandas or what he possibly could of accomplished if he had all americans on offense. I just want to know how he graded out with his performance this year.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:01 pm to
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Made over three times less money for one. Didn't have 3 1st team All-Americans or two guaranteed 1st round draft picks in this year's NFL draft and probably more first round draft picks including Delpit and Fulton for another.

Could you imagine what Slinger would have done with a 1st team all-American at QB like White of the defense, a 1st team all-American at RB in the backfield like Greedy, and a 1st team all-American at WR like Delpit? Maybe another high draft pick at WR like LSU had in Fulton?



Have you ever stopped to think that they're all-americans and top draft picks because of Aranda and his defense? Do you think these players just show up on campus playing at this level and cruise throughout? Why doesn't E develop some players into AAs and top 10 draft picks?
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:06 pm to
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Have you ever stopped to think that they're all-americans and top draft picks because of Aranda and his defense? Do you think these players just show up on campus playing at this level and cruise throughout? Why doesn't E develop some players into AAs and top 10 draft picks?


Boom.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:09 pm to
You're gonna get some spiel about how E hasn't had the time to develop his offense and players or that the line play wasn't good enough to produce all-americans on the offensive side of the ball
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Scars n Stripes
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Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:13 pm to
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You do realize by that logic, a rebuttal is that LSU could have scored 4 td's and would have still lost to Bama


That rebuttal would be pretty weak. Had the offense managed to score 4 TDs then the most likely associative scenario would be they had a higher time of possession which would mean less for Bama offense which would have also meant more rest for our defense. This would likely be good for 1 or 2 fewer Bama TDs making our 4 more than enough to win.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:14 pm to
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I notice you didnt give him a grade. Thats all I asked for was a grade.


Did I reply to you?

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I didnt need you to talk about how his salary compares to Arandas or what he possibly could of accomplished if he had all americans on offense


Sorry, I didn't know that you wanted to ignore the facts, my bad.

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I just want to know how he graded out with his performance this year.


Aranda is the highest paid coordinator in college football. He finished with a 22% in total defense. Make your own grade.

Should it be #1 in the nation since he is the highest paid coordinator? Top five maybe? Top 10? Top 15? Top 20 maybe?

No, not for the highest paid defensive coordinator with multiple all-americans and first round draft picks. He is right where he should be and could be lower and it would still be GREAT !!!
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4696 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:16 pm to
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Did I reply to you?




Yes you replied to me. And you still havent given E a grade. Simple question dude
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:18 pm to
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Aranda underperformed his salary this year. It is what it is.


Then the rest of the staff did too.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:19 pm to
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Why doesn't E develop some players into AAs and top 10 draft picks?


Fournette or Guice? Or does his interim gig not count and he only gets credit for ALL of the 5-star recruits he is working with NOW in his ONE year?

Are you afraid he will develop the #1 or #2 RB commit, depending on recruiting service, he has coming in or the #6 RB in the nation into an AA like Garrison Hearst?

Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:22 pm to
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Fournette or Guice? Or does his interim gig not count and he only gets credit for ALL of the 5-star recruits he is working with NOW in his ONE year?


Remind me how well he utilized them in the Bama game.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4696 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:22 pm to
It's hard to give E credit for Guice or Fournette considering they were both all americans the year before Ensminger even coached them.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 6:25 pm to
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And this isn't to bash Aranda but to think Slinger underperformed while at the same time the defense was the best in the world is ridiculous.



Nobody is saying the defense “was the best in the world”. They played very well the majority of the time. There were some moments when they didn’t make stops but that happens to every defense.

The only game this offense looked really solid in was the Georgia game. The rest of the time they were either playing agai st pedestrian defenses or completely shitting the bed.
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