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re: Ryan Clark has CTE right?

Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:27 pm to
He's right by definition. All of those guys are from the same generation. None of them can be considered generational talents if there are three of them

It's just what the word means.
Posted by tigerstripes
Loranger, LA
Member since Aug 2006
879 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:28 pm to
James carville
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13977 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Wait so now this board is upset that someone is saying Arch isn’t a generational talent? Hahaha


A few weeks back some brilliant posters were saying Nuss was nothing but a "Turnover machine".


Now the experts, except RC, are saying he is awesome.


Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73721 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:52 pm to
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He's wrong about Peyton, but right about Brees and Brady.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61654 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:55 pm to
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I believe he means in terms of physical talent, which would be fairly hard to disagree with. They're all generational football minds


I mean, we've seen over and over and over and over again that a "generation mind" is more valuable than generational physical talent at QB.

Jamarcus Russell had more physical talent than any QB I've ever seen. He was worthless.

Jeff George was as good as anyone physically. He was a journeyman.

If you (or he) is making a distinction, it's not valuable.

Any trait that makes a QB successful should be included in the conversation. Otherwise, what's the point?
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6268 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Wait so now this board is upset that someone is saying Arch isn’t a generational talent? Hahaha

No, nobody said that. But some people on this board think it's ridiculous that RC is claiming Tom Bray, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning aren't generational talents. And I agree that is an absurd statement, especially for Tom Brady who is by far the greatest NFL QB to ever play the game.

What RC is missing here is that it takes much more than physical talent to be a great QB. The guys he mentions, especially Brady, had intangible qualities that made them great (leadership, determination, focus, health/longevity, work ethic, etc.)

And it's more than just his idiotic words. It's his arrogant attitude, self righteous demeanor and condescending tone that make him so unlikeable.
Posted by Leon the pro
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Member since Jul 2014
616 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:46 pm to
I wonder how many “generational” talents the world missed out on because they had the IQ of a pork sandwich.
Funny how stupid people don’t appreciate intelligence.
Water is wet.
Posted by asig99
Member since Oct 2021
62 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:49 pm to
Folks here are too quick in their desire to dismiss RC due to their disdain for him rather than actually think for a minute.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8197 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:53 pm to
I'm so confused by this thread

He started his point by identifying John Elway, Patrick Mahomes, and Andrew Luck as generational talents.

They are not only intelligent but also possess a rare combination of physical gifts, including size, athleticism, pinpoint accuracy, and arm strength, being able to throw on the run etc.

Bunch of pre-triggered soft baby back bitches
Posted by Leon the pro
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Member since Jul 2014
616 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:58 pm to
My point was..
If there needs to be a certain amount of intelligence required to be a “generational talent “..(mentally functional), Why negate players who were more successful than the ones listed? It makes zero sense.Hell, throw Jamarcus in there…see now?
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
6771 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:59 pm to
The best thing about posting these 1 minute videos, is it shows me I choose wisely a long time ago to avoid all these “talking head” shows. I guess it’s my age, that I finally turned that shite off? But how can anyone sit and listen to those guys longer than the video you posted?

Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8197 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:02 pm to
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If there needs to be a certain amount of intelligence required to be a “generational talent “..(mentally functional), Why negate players who were more successful than the ones listed?


Because it's more than just intelligence.

Every successful QB can't be considered generational talents. They could have generational careers but that's a different argument.

My perfect example would be Josh Allen. Intelligent (higher wonderlic than Tom Brady), 6'5 240lbs, super athletic, a cannon for his arm and accurate. That's a generational talent. He won't ever win as much as a Tom Brady but you can't say with a straight face that Brady has as much natural talent as Josh Allen.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Leon the pro
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Member since Jul 2014
616 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:07 pm to
Couple of questions:
Do you believe the processing ability of the elite quarterback is talent or anyone can do it?
If it is a special skill, why would you separate it in this case?
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8197 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:21 pm to
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Do you believe the processing ability of the elite quarterback is talent or anyone can do it?
If it is a special skill, why would you separate it in this case?


I'm not separating it. I consider it one skillset and it's takes more than one in my opinion to be considered a generational talent.

Ryan Fitzpatrick had the highest wonderlic score by any QB, average athlete, average size; he didn't have some amazing career. I'd call his intelligence a generational trait but he's not a generational talent.

On the other end of the spectrum would be someone like Anthony Richardson who you could say has generational traits (size, speed, arm strength) but he clearly isn't a generational talent because he clearly doesn't have the processing ability and he can't consistently hit the broad side of a barn
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51595 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:45 pm to
He threw Elway and Luck in because they can be dismissed as less than Mahomes. Clark’s motive was to get rid of the white generational talent and replace them with Luck, which can’t be taken seriously, and Elway to give him just enough of a veil to hide his racism.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51595 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:48 pm to
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Trevor Lawrence and Caleb Williams were seen as generational prospect

Anyone who ranked Lawrence or Caleb Williams ahead of Jayden Daniels is a fool, especially the Bears.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65860 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:49 pm to
Definitely a talent, there are a ton of QBs and ex QBs who know the game inside and out but were never successful at the NFL level because they couldn’t process the information quickly enough on the field. There’s no amount of practice that can create that talent if it’s not innately present.
Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
1436 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:06 pm to
He doesn't think anyone who's not athletic and can run the ball as a quarterback is a generational talent
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6497 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:24 pm to
Ryan Clark probably doesn't have CTE, but Donnie Is going Senile
Posted by Kocin
Pearland Texas
Member since Feb 2017
771 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:31 pm to
Tom Brady became great through work ! In college Brady was considered average at best! The man is talking about from high school to college and the expectations that Arch is the greatest ever ! Which he isn’t ! Ewers was rated as the perfect QB 100 I believe and he wasn’t! He also said Nuss was a generational talent
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