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re: Rugby Player (Australian) watches Fournette LSU Highlights
Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:10 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:10 pm to magildachunks
Fournette was a legitimate threat to take the rock to the house every single time he touched the ball. We hear that said about a lot of players, but it was absolutely true about LF7. It wasn't even a matter of "if he's going to do it again", but "When he does it again" and "how many times does he do it this game?" I still have short vines saved to my old phone of all of his truck jobs. GOAT.
He was just an absolute monster player and a great ambassador for LSU. And I miss him very much. We could really use him on the current team that is absolutely stacked everywhere except at RB, where we have good players but not an overabundance of experience.
He was just an absolute monster player and a great ambassador for LSU. And I miss him very much. We could really use him on the current team that is absolutely stacked everywhere except at RB, where we have good players but not an overabundance of experience.
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Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:30 pm to SDTiger15
If he didn’t have the size and speed to hang, why would the 9ers waste a limited roster spot on him? If they signed him with no experience, he probably had above average size/speed/physical talent. Or it was a pr stunt, but the NFL has roster management down to a science.
Of course he was shocked by the speed of the game. College studs that have played their whole lives take a year or two to adjust to the speed of the pro game. It was probably too big of a mental leap rather than a lack of physical talent.
Of course he was shocked by the speed of the game. College studs that have played their whole lives take a year or two to adjust to the speed of the pro game. It was probably too big of a mental leap rather than a lack of physical talent.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:45 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I always wondered why the US national team doesn’t recruit fringe NFL guys to play rugby.
Like a guy that gets cut after a year or two from the NFL, would still be a better athlete than the average rugby player.
Rugby is one of the most nuanced intricate sports there is. This comes from someone who loves football, but any idiot who's athletic can play football. Hell most of the positions have specific steps and angles you take on any particular play. It's all heavily choreographed.
Outside of set plays, rugby is the exact opposite. Everything in rugby is about feel, understanding of pace and angles, ball skill, spacial awareness, etc. Could you take a super athletic sprinter and simply throw him at wing? Absolutely (and the US has done this before), but anyone inside of the Outside Center position is gonna be clueless.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 3:32 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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Suva
Haven’t met lots of Americans who have been to Suva. Spent several weeks there in two summers in the late 70’s. Great place and loved the people. They definitely were big rugby fans. Fijian guys can be tough, and rugby seemed to fit their culture.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 5:05 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 7/15/18 at 4:29 am to The Baker
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You couldn’t be more incorrect. The introduction of the snap transformed the rugby/football style game from a reactionary/instinct dominated sport into a premeditation/strategic forethought dominated sport. Our coaches/players are the most mentally engaged out of any field sport sans maybe baseball... and the reason baseball requires so much strategy is because it allows game time pauses to the extreme. i.e. time for thinking.
Perhaps you missed what I was saying. Yes football is incredibly strategic, easily more so than any other sport.
However, the VAST majority of that strategy is done by coaches and relayed in the form of specific directions to the players. Sure some systems now have read principles that require the players to process information and react accordingly, but football is easily the most scripted sport currently.
That’s what makes rugby so different. In rugby the players have to identify spacing and angles and make cuts and dummy runs and twists off each other. They have to identify overlaps and areas that can be exploited and attack accordingly. Similar to soccer it’s on the player not the coach.
That’s all I’m saying. If you got some freak of nature athlete in football, you hand him the ball, tell him the hole to hit each play, and turn him loose. There’s nothing like that in rugby as it’s almost entirely open-play.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 9:56 am to FootballNostradamus
I disagree. I played football and rugby and picked up rugby much quicker. I played a lot of pickup basketball as a kid which helped because zone defense in both had similar principles. I played safety in football and there is just a lot more that can happen and a lot more thinking. Rugby was simpler and almost pure instinct. 7’s is the most fun I’ve ever had playing a sport.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:21 pm to SDTiger15
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And to speak to the talent difference, a few year ago the 49ers signed the BEST Rugby League player in the world from Australia, Jarred Hayne. He lasted 1/2 of a season in the NFL and was only used on special teams before being cut.
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BEST Rugby League
Completely different sport. One of the best rugby union players in the world, Sonny Bill Williams is a 7-0 in professional boxing matches as a heavy weight. Was set to box for the WBA Heavyweight belt at one point before returning to rugby. Rugby union players are a different breed than Rugby league.
Football is extremely rigorous and organized. On this play you do this, if this person is in this gap block this way. Rugby is all about improv and winging it. The teams that try to have stringent strategies in rugby usually lose to the fast open style play.
Also, there are numerous positions in rugby that a top athlete can jump into day 1 just not an entire team. Wing (especially #11), outside center, and flanker are perfect positions for inexperienced players.
Any rugby team in the world would drool over the thought of an athletic freak like Fournette in open field.
This post was edited on 7/15/18 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:36 pm to FootballNostradamus
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That’s what makes rugby so different. In rugby the players have to identify spacing and angles and make cuts and dummy runs and twists off each other
Honestly completely overrated aspect. Running support, ball retention, and recognizing the state of the ball (when to go into the ruck) are much harder to pick up and more important. (Is it that obvious I was a forward?)
Posted on 7/15/18 at 1:08 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
There are so many on this board that have never played rugby and don't understand it. They don't know what they are talking about.
I'm sure there are a lot of football players that went out and started playing with their college team and thought that they were good. They have no idea. A bunch of scrawny runts from Europe could score all over an athletically superior American team. In fact they usually do.
Fournette could be the greatest rugby player ever but it would take him a while to develop all of the ancillary skills to dominate on the pitch.
I'm sure there are a lot of football players that went out and started playing with their college team and thought that they were good. They have no idea. A bunch of scrawny runts from Europe could score all over an athletically superior American team. In fact they usually do.
Fournette could be the greatest rugby player ever but it would take him a while to develop all of the ancillary skills to dominate on the pitch.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 2:18 pm to WestlakeTiger
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I feel we didn't appreciate his ridiculous talent enough.
We've definitely been spoiled over the past few years in having Hill, Fournette, and Guice back-to-back-to-back
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