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re: Ross Dellenger interview on OTB

Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:44 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:44 am to
So if Orgeron would have died befroe week 1, we would currently be 10-2, ranked # 6 or 7, and in a NY6 bowl.


Nice, very nice
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23313 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:44 am to
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I like Canada’s offense. The notion that he wasn’t allowed to run his offense is ridiculous. Outside of 1 half we saw Canada’s offense all year. He did th best he could with what we had
it was reported then that O wanted him to "limit the pre-snap shifting". this was after several games where we averaged 12 penalties per game. limiting pre-snap shifts should not have shut down canada's offense especially against Troy.

The whole team wasn't playing well at that point in the year even Aranda's D was having trouble.

sounds like Canada is a dick to work with. is it on O for hiring a dick with a history of being dick? sure. but letting him go doesn't mean LSU football is in a nose dive.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:45 am to
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Talk to people about Matt's Xs&Os knowledge "people are blown away by it"


There's an article floating around that NFL coaches incorporate some of Canada's offensive principles into their systems.

But Orgeron, because he's adept at running bag drills with fat boys, thought he needed to alter it, because he's the head coach and they'll do what he wants. Fricking egomaniac.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:46 am to
quote:

the notion that he panicked once Kiffin left him at the alter and then just pursued the biggest name to appease fans really doesn't seem that far off


True and it says a lot about O and Alleva if hiring O was anyway predicated on getting Kiffin.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287917 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:46 am to
Show me this documentation. The first fricking play vs BYU the whole OL went in motion. We ran 6 jet sweeps in the game. Do you think O was calling those plays??

It’s funny when people read something enough on a message board how it becomes the truth.

What actually happened is O didn’t like the struggles in the Syracuse game, and went into the Troy game trying to change things. He also did this because of injury. Tried to simplify things. This is from Dellenger
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31739 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:46 am to
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it was reported then that O wanted him to "limit the pre-snap shifting". this was after several games where we averaged 12 penalties per game. limiting pre-snap shifts should not have shut down canada's offense especially against Troy.


keep your head in the sand. Canada might be a dick, but O started meddling and look at the result.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:47 am to
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but letting him go doesn't mean LSU football is in a nose dive.


True, letting Canada go doesn't mean LSU is in a nose dive. But hiring Ed Orgeron sure does.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23313 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:47 am to
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There's an article floating around that NFL coaches incorporate some of Canada's offensive principles into their systems.
can you link it? i'd like to read it.
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because he's the head coach and they'll do what he wants. Fricking egomaniac.

same way where i work - my boss tells me what to do and expects me to do it. fricking dickhead egomaniac.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7025 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:48 am to
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People badmouthing Canada are blowing my mind.

O hired him to run an offense and then wouldn't let him run his fricking offense.

Of course it didn't work out.


Sounds really familiar.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287917 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:48 am to
LImiting the pre snap stuff is not changing the offense. And probably saved us a loss or 2.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26097 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:48 am to
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the notion that he panicked once Kiffin left him at the alter and then just pursued the biggest name to appease fans really doesn't seem that far off.


He did what Alleva did, except Canada was qualified. It's kind of funny when you think about it.
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:49 am to
Oh cool, another O-negative thread.

Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10308 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:49 am to
It's on it's way if O can't get out of the way. LSU finally had a young innovative offensive mind and O couldn't keep his emotions in check long enough to see how it played out. Now he wants to go back years for and offensive philosophy? He is going to really look bad starting Monday when his offense - Canada sputters around and ND pushed the defense all over the field in the second half.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23313 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:51 am to
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LImiting the pre snap stuff is not changing the offense. And probably saved us a loss or 2.

i agree. the fact Canada got his fee-fees hurted over asking him to slightly alter his offense shows why he's such a dick.

could he have "thrown" the first half from a play calling perspective to prove a point?
Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2106 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:51 am to
Jeez- people haven't figured this out yet ?

Alleva made the call on Canada

Why else would he turn 3 games in and then talk about another style of offense? Again this is from the jump ...you don't do this if O hired the guy

This isn't that hard
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:52 am to
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Jeez- people haven't figured this out yet ?

Alleva made the call on Canada

It must be nice to be O. Quite literally NOTHING that happens with the program is ever his fault.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293632 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:53 am to
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Its well documented that O basically didn't let him run it until after the Troy debacle when Alleva stepped in.


this makes no sense at all.

We saw Canadas offense early in the season. The only outlier was Troy and the defense melted down in that game and LSU lost 4 turnovers. Troy controlled both lines of scrimmage and had a guy run for 190 yards.

Youll lose most games with 4 turnovers and allowing them to run all over you.

Lsus running game sucked. No guice and the Wrs werent able to break open the jet sweep whicj was run a half dozen times.

Lsu lost being unprepared and overpowered.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161685 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:54 am to
I gave you cliffs from an interview you clown
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:54 am to
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Under Reid, Smith has flourished, never more than this season. Reid has devised a scheme reliant on several concepts more familiar to the college game, many borrowed from former Pittsburgh Panthers offensive coordinator Matt Canada. Plays are heavy on shifts, intricate bunch formations and misdirection.


[link]https://www.sentinelsource.com/sports/national/alex-smith-having-a-career-year-in-last-run-with/article_68c7ca0c-72d4-5a6b-96de-4b9977f7e35c.html[/link]

And there's plenty of articles about Reid gushing over Canada,

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same way where i work - my boss tells me what to do and expects me to do it. fricking dickhead egomaniac.



Yeah well usually that's because your boss is more qualified than you in some respect. Orgeron is not more qualified than Canada, in any respect.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 11:56 am
Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2106 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:54 am to
O sucks too - feel better ?
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