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re: Rohan Davey: "Big Joe Will Break My Yardage... I'm TELLING You!"
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:31 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:31 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Parse away. Of course QBs aren't REQUIRED to run, but they almost always do.
Again you’re confusing a Runn Pass Option with a REad Option.
In a RPO the options usually are giving the ball to the RB to run or throwing the ball.
Keeping it happens usually only when there is man coverage. It isn’t “almost always” as man coverage should be identified PRE-snap.
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:35 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
Not saying Burrow couldn't hit 800 or 1000. I would just hate to see him take that many unnecessary hits. He's got a ton of talent to dish the ball to. And all are hungry for the rock
I agree with all of this. Maybe he won't run this fall. It'll be good if he doesn't have to and one of the freshman running backs pick up the slack.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:38 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
Keeping it happens usually only when there is man coverage. It isn’t “almost always” as man coverage should be identified PRE-snap.
You're confused.
i'm not saying "almost always" on every play. I'm saying "almost always" (at some time or another) in nearly every RPO scheme.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:41 pm to bencoleman
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I agree with all of this. Maybe he won't run this fall. It'll be good if he doesn't have to and one of the freshman running backs pick up the slack.
I hope and think that he will still use his legs to make plays when things break down, to shift around the pocket, etc. But I also hope and don't think we will have to rely on him to run so many designed QB run plays. His legs are an asset but not as much as his brain and his arm.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:44 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Except that’s not what you were saying. You just said they were running RPOs.
They don’t have rushes because they run RPOs they have rushing attempts because
1 all of them are athletic enough to take advantage of teams no keying on the QB.
2. Sacks get counted.
None of the three are so dynamic running the ball their it outweighta the risk.
Joe isn’t thenoasser they are, and needs to use all his strength to be effective.
Lawrence is in the same offense Watson was in and he runs the ball half as often.
It’s not a matter of offense but a matter of played.
Mett could run an RPO offense but it would look different than RGIII running it.
They don’t have rushes because they run RPOs they have rushing attempts because
1 all of them are athletic enough to take advantage of teams no keying on the QB.
2. Sacks get counted.
None of the three are so dynamic running the ball their it outweighta the risk.
Joe isn’t thenoasser they are, and needs to use all his strength to be effective.
Lawrence is in the same offense Watson was in and he runs the ball half as often.
It’s not a matter of offense but a matter of played.
Mett could run an RPO offense but it would look different than RGIII running it.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:48 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:
It’s just my favorite players, not like a ranking of who I think was “best” or whatever.
I gotcha
quote:
And are you insinuating I’m a CheeriO??
Not at all, but Buckeye Ree and a handful of others push this idiotic narrative that a large chunk of LSU fans want the team to fail because we have questions about O’s ability to get the team back to championship level
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:53 pm to bencoleman
He’s a good runner.
He’s should run the ball.
If you can add QB runs, you should. Because a QB that’s a thread in the running game makes running the ball 11 on 11
He’s should run the ball.
If you can add QB runs, you should. Because a QB that’s a thread in the running game makes running the ball 11 on 11
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:53 pm to SammyTiger
quote:don't try to tell me what I'M saying. That is absurdly presumptuous.
Except that’s not what you were saying. You just said they were running RPOs.
quote:That is dumb as frick. Rohan gets it. You are clueless on Burrow's passing. All you can see are last year's stats with a half-assed passing scheme and grossly unprepared WRs.
Joe isn’t the [passer] they are, and needs to use all his strength to be effective.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:55 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
In a RPO the options usually are giving the ball to the RB to run or throwing the ball.
correct
a quick throw either horizontally or vertically
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:56 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
And did you catch Burrow's presser from a couple days ago? He said Brady's offense is the same offense he (Burrow) has been running since he was 12 years old.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:58 pm to Fat Bastard
quote:@FatBastard - So you and Sammy are both claiming a QB never runs the ball in an RPO offense? Right?
correct
a quick throw either horizontally or vertically
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:00 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
He’s a good runner.
yeah not only can joe tuck it and run (classic scrambler) to extend drives if everybody is covered or if protection breaks down
he runs the zone read well also. he can hurt you in a myriad of ways. really wish we had him a year earlier.
mauck and flynn were good scramblers plus could run Qb draws and some option. Burrow is very similar.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:01 pm to Fat Bastard
@FatBastard - So you and Sammy are both claiming a QB never runs the ball in an RPO offense? Right?
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:03 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
claiming a QB never runs the ball in an RPO offense? Right?
nope. not at all. key word there sammy used is "usually". it does not say the QB can not run it when the call from the coach is a RPO.
just saying plenty do not have to. plenty do not. they have a back for that.
do not confuse RPO calls with set plays where the Qb has the option to run it based on a zone read or a power read if that type of play is being called in to the QB.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:05 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
No I’m claiming RPOs don’t require a QB to run.
You said Lawrence Tua and Haskins all run RPOs not RPO offenses.
You said Lawrence Tua and Haskins all run RPOs not RPO offenses.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:06 pm to SammyTiger
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No I’m claiming RPOs don’t require a QB to run.
correct again. we saw drew brees run some RPOs last year and he is not a runner and the other teams knew he would never use his option to run. it would be a handoff or play fake or not and a quick throw.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:06 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
And he’s been running the ball since he was 12
He had over 100 attempts in 2012 and 2014 in high school
My main point is that RPO offense don’t dictate how much your QB runs. How well your QB runs does.
In almost every offense.
Clemson’s Offense has been RPO based for years.
Watson he 207 rushes as a first year starter
Lawrence had 60.
He had over 100 attempts in 2012 and 2014 in high school
My main point is that RPO offense don’t dictate how much your QB runs. How well your QB runs does.
In almost every offense.
Clemson’s Offense has been RPO based for years.
Watson he 207 rushes as a first year starter
Lawrence had 60.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:13 pm to Fat Bastard
quote:Great. Then we both understand that QB runs are indeed a part of the basic RPO scheme.
nope. not at all.
just saying plenty do not have to. plenty do not. they have a back for that.
And that the number of QB runs vary from program to program.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:14 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
Then we both understand that QB runs are indeed a part of the basic RPO scheme.
As much as they are a part of any offense
If you’re QB can run you call QB runs.
But Mett could run an RPO offense and he’s a statue.
It’s not program to program it’s player to player.
Increase in athleticism means an increase in carries.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:18 pm to SammyTiger
quote:He also threw the ball a little in high school (in a tough Ohio conference)
And he’s been running the ball since he was 12
Senior year - 4445 yards passing - 63TDs - 2 INTs - 72.3% comp
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:19 pm
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