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re: Roadmap for at large BCS Game, root for Nebraska and some lobbying

Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:52 pm to
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you dont get the opportunity to sellout the whole place


Schools get to ask for 2nd, 3rd, 4th allotments of tickets if they sell them out. Google it.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:52 pm to
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Just calling it like I see it.



Why would you believe that anyone here is interested in how you see things?

Don't you have your own fan board on which to play like people care about your opinions?
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:55 pm to
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Schools get to ask for 2nd, 3rd, 4th allotments of tickets if they sell them out. Google it.


yeah and with tOSU coming to town do you think there will be a lot of spare tickets floating around? those folks would sell out the dome by themselves. any argument that arky wouldnt sell enough tickets is laughable. this would only be an issue if the sugar bowl was being forced to take some bum like Cincinnati or terrible traveling Stanford.
Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:04 pm to
I thought all the same things until I heard the former Arky SID (he's on the radio daily up here, and handled this stuff for years...) say that Arkansas would sell half the tickets of LSU (official allocations+LSU biased locals). I think in the end, the economic part of the LSU/Arky decision is a push. Especially when you consider the main benefit of "hotel rooms" is the tax associated with the room, not the revenue of the nightly rate...it gets even more irrelevant.

We're on the same team here...no big deal. Just an interesting debate.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:28 pm to
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not the revenue of the nightly rate...it gets even more irrelevant.


huh? they jack the frick out of the rate for the sugar bowl/ new years.

to sell that many hotel rooms between arky and tosu at that high of a price the city must be creaming its pants.
Posted by hogfancb
Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:43 pm to
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Fellow Tiger Fans, let's root for Nebraska, this way we move up to #9 in BCS. With only a 2 slot difference with Arkansas, it becomes a "beauty contest" for the bowls? LSU is the "most" watched college football program this year. On a cumulative basis, the fact that practically are all are games are nationally televised, we attract more eyeballs and ratings than any other team in college football. The Les Miles' interviews, the unpredictability of our team. We are the most exciting team to watch in college football. (outside of the 2 playing for MNC). No reason our team can't win a "beauty" contest vs Arkansas for at large berth. They don't care about on field, head to head, with the same record it's about "ratings" and "money". Don't count us out



Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
120 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:47 pm to
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to sell that many hotel rooms between arky and tosu at that high of a price the city must be creaming its pants


Unless the city owns the hotels, then all that matters is the tax revenues. I think the tax rate is 14% on hotels. So if Hog fans reserve (and pay for) 30,000 more rooms at $300/night (double the normal rate) than LSU, then that is $1,260,000 in tax revenue to the city. Which is equal to selling 8,400 more tickets. That's why i say it is a wash.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:52 pm to
the bowls are about more than just the city. local business leaders sit on the boards. its a full community effort.

to pass it off as just tax money is silly and just plain wrong.
Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
120 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:56 pm to
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to pass it off as just tax money is silly and just plain wrong.


I think in the end, they want the best possible matchup. The corporate sponsors make sure most of the economics work. Just tired of hearing how Hog fans paying for hotel rooms makes them an obvious choice. Economically it doesn't add up. What makes them an obvious choice is 31-20 and #7 in the BCS.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:59 pm to
i believe i covered all of those reasons in my original posts
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
21629 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:00 pm to
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arkansas is the better team and deserves the bid.


They were th3 better team yesterday. We are both 10-2, with both losses coming against SEC competition. We could play the "They lost to so and so game", but we still both have 2 losses.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39252 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:00 pm to
Think that LSU fans would better the economy by drinking more than the Arky fans??? Maybe Aleva can use this in his lobbying argument for LSU to Sugar.

(Disclaimer: I don't think LSU is going to the Sugar.)
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:06 pm to
hogfancb

This doesn't qualify as a rebuttal.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31006 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:11 pm to
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They were th3 better team yesterday. We are both 10-2, with both losses coming against SEC competition. We could play the "They lost to so and so game", but we still both have 2 losses.


come on, they won the game. we dont play best 2 outta 3. we had our shot, blew it, and for ANY lsu fans to be whining and scheming our way into the sugar bowl is just pathetic.
there is not a single measurable in LSU's favor of being selected over Arky.
Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
120 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:16 pm to
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there is not a single measurable in LSU's favor of being selected over Arky.


Agree with everything you said until this point...ticket sales go LSU's way. 5,000 more tickets is $750,000 real dollars.

But again, I want them to play somewhere else.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Member since Nov 2007
31006 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:33 pm to
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ticket sales go LSU's way.


ive totally discredited this in previous posts.

there is a finite number of tickets available for the game, arkansas will sell their allotment.
Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
120 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:41 pm to
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ive totally discredited this in previous posts.


You haven't. The 2 schools' allotments only account for <40k of the 70-80k tickets that will be sold.

The school can ask for more tickets beyond its allotment. Sugar bowls involving LSU (even the LSU/ND one) sell more tickets than those not involving LSU, by as much as 12,000 tickets, which makes sense- as the locals have a reason to want to buy tickets late and go to the game.

Arky's main advantage isn't even that they beat LSU, it's that they are finishing on a much higher note (and ranked higher)
Posted by collegefootballfan
Member since Nov 2010
27 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:06 pm to
This thread is so silly. LSU fans are so delusional. Arky beat you. Now get up. Wipe that blood off your nose and go to your consolation bowl.

Arky is BCS bound. LSU is what? Cotton Bowl bound? Good luck guys.
Posted by goducks75
Member since Nov 2010
52 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:23 am to
I'd be shocked if it wasn't Arkansas. They're ranked higher and there's no way LSU will jump over them due to them losing head to head. Arkansas has never been to a BCS game and would likely sell out their allotment of tickets just as quick as LSU would due to how excited the fans would be for that BCS appearance. I do think a team like LSU deserves to go over the Big East champ (a lot of teams are more deserving than them, but that's another issue entirely), but with the rules the way they are as far as not letting more than 2 teams from a conference into BCS games, it probably won't happen.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
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18917 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:32 am to
Wasn't Arky in the SECCG game a few years back? I seem to remember that they did not travel well to Atlanta. What makes anyone think they'd travel well to anywhere else?

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