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re: Ridley's YPG Rushing extrapolated

Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:19 pm to
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LSU prob has 40 or more future NFL players on their team.

Vandy prob has 5.

They dont belong on the same field.
Doesn't mean they suck. Ask Ole Miss about the definition of "suck". They can explain it for you.
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well he is averaging 5.8 YPC as of now, in all 4 games.

if you take out the Vandy game, it drops to 4.7, which is pretty average for college football.
See above, plus your statement that 4.7 yards a carry is "average for college football" is laughable. Then, you define "feet" as
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feet= putting foot in ground/making a cut/hitting a hole.
OK. I'll agree with that as a descriptive phrase for a running back's"feet". But then you twist off and spew Ridley's
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Feet are average at best
Damn... Honest dude, go to Walmart and get that optemetric(eye doctor)checkup before the season is out.
This post was edited on 9/28/10 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170351 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:20 pm to
I still don't get where he thinks he could have run for 200 against WVU though
Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
3226 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:25 pm to
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His high this year is 159 yards against Vanderbilt.


My apologies.

I trusted the Advocate.

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The Tigers tailback produced a career-high 20 carries for 116 yards against a defense that came in allowing only 62.7 yards per game and 2.2 yards per carry.


Posted by imsodumblolz
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:28 pm to
that was his high for number of carries
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:29 pm to
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Powerman


you don't know much about sports
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:32 pm to
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could have had 200 yards vs WVU


Then why the frick didn't he? Did we not want him to get tired? Are we saving the secret plays?
We won by 6 pts!! Whos idea was it to keep him from getting 200? crickets
Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
3226 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 11:34 pm to
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that was his high for number of carries


Thanks for the clarification. And thanks to the Advocate for that meaningless stat. Yards matter way more than carries and touchdowns matter way more than yards or carries.

And regardless of whatever career record Ridley set, someone still has some 'splain to do to figure how Ridley "could have" got 200 yards against WVU. Would have needed at least 10 more carries on top of his career high number of carries.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87284 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 6:18 am to
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Not sure they "suck"...six wins is attainable. And, explain what you mean by "inflated" stats?


And I'm not sure what Vandy team you're watching.

Prior to them knocking off a horrible Ole Miss team, I was questioning whether they'd actually win a game this year. They do indeed suck.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52135 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 6:45 am to
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Prior to them knocking off a horrible Ole Miss team, I was questioning whether they'd actually win a game this year. They do indeed suck.
Guess you where wrong,huh? I like to pull for Vandy. Six wins may be a streach, but like so many other "fans" on the Rant, maybe you just need to let the season unfold before pronouncing an ironclad edict.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61671 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 6:57 am to
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i like Ridley, but i think he struggles against good defenses.

he had trouble running against the only "legit" D we have played, UNC. And they were missing some players.


I don't think he struggled against UNC. He had some very nice runs, one that was called back from a questionable holding call.

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26240 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 6:57 am to
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could have had 200 yards vs WVU




Then why the frick didn't he? Did we not want him to get tired? Are we saving the secret plays?
We won by 6 pts!! Whos idea was it to keep him from getting 200? crickets


He could have if we had run the ball on second down after running on first down for good yardage. With our running game against WV I think 2nd and 4 is a running situation. The coaches don't.

Also penalties changed a lot of short yardage situations into pass plays.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13879 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:13 am to
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You do know that our passing is ranked in the 100s because our pass attempts is also ranked in the 100s.



I didn't realize this. Good point.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:16 am to
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just me


I appreciate what you're trying to do, and it's almost valiant the way you've defended our QB.

At some point, however, you have to accept reality. Passing completion percentage is one variable in a numerous amount of variables that add up to a sum. In reality, you cannot quote one statistic that, while it supports your somewhat blossomed argument, represents part of a whole that must remain in context. You've extrapolated the sugar from the cake, so to speak.

The proper way to actually grade JJ on a proper scale is compute his QB rating using the NFL, not the college, passer rating equation.

Since you provide very rooted arguments, I shall humbly ask if you would like the formula to compute this on your own, or if you would like it computed for you. This takes into account completion percentage, average yards per attempt, percentage of touchdown passes, and percentage of interceptions WITH limits (categories ranked less than 0 receive a score of 0 without dipping into a negative range).

Would you agree that this is the most sound measurable to use in assessing Jordan Jefferson's ability to be an effective passer?


Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:17 am to
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You do know that our passing is ranked in the 100s because our pass attempts is also ranked in the 100s.
while this is true, the average yards per attempts is also in the 100s.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52135 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:19 am to
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Since you provide very rooted arguments, I shall humbly ask if you would like the formula to compute this on your own, or if you would like it computed for you. This takes into account completion percentage, average yards per attempt, percentage of touchdown passes, and percentage of interceptions WITH limits (categories ranked less than 0 receive a score of 0 without dipping into a negative range
Cite some authority for this...formula.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:24 am to
LINK

LINK

second link is from nfl.com. Let me know if you need any more.

ETA: LINK

double check all formulas if you must. want to make sure I do this right, not using the nice fluffy NCAA method.
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 7:26 am
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52135 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:26 am to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26240 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:30 am to
Are you people so blind that you can't see stuff like not seeing wide open receivers? Bounce passing balls to receivers! Waiting to long to throw and getting receivers lit up! Throwing the ball high and preventing yards after catch?

I don't need statistics to see that but either way a. watching the game or b. reading statistics both show that JJ is at the very bottom of all the div 1 QB's.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170351 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:38 am to
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while this is true, the average yards per attempts is also in the 100s.


Right

And typically when you look at teams that have very low passing attempts the averages tend to go up

Look at Roberson for KSU a few years ago. They rarely threw it but when they did, they went down the field with play action.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87284 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:43 am to
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Guess you where wrong,huh?


No. I stand by my assessment. They DO suck.

And all the semantics you want to use just to try to win some sort of internet argument can't change that. It is what it is.
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 7:47 am
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