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re: Rewatching the Fiesta Bowl - Thoughts on Burrow.

Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:37 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:37 am to
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Burrow made plays that Etling could not dream of making


CaptainPanic is always melting down, don't respond to him/her.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:43 am to
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Stats are extremely deceptive

Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:57 am to
Central Florida
Posted by Mayhawman
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:02 pm to
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Stats are extremely deceptive.Burrow made plays that Etling could not dream of making. With Etling we lose to Auburn and probably Miss StAte.
Nothing deceptive about 153RAT > 133RAT, or 60% > 59% and everything else is pure conjecture.
I think Joe is a great competitor and more athletic. He still has 2019 to top Danny Boy and this will reveal the answer.
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10369 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:40 pm to
Stats are deceptive...Burrow threw a ton of catchable balls that were dropped this past season.

More than I can remember in a long time.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:46 pm to





Muh O-line










NB4 Buckeyejeaux starts slamming another stat site.
All Nov '18 except I added Danny's slightly better drop rate from 2017 in fairness.
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:46 am to
Again stats are misleading.

Who gets to determine what is catchable and what’s not.

Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:13 am to


More O pumpers rejecting statistics and data because it doesn’t sit well with their preferred viewpoint.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:13 am to
CFB Film Room is a fan site. The stats come from anonymous fans. Pretty much anyone can watch games and post stats there.

As if Damone, Ricky, Lunitik, Goldrush, etc sent in their stats.

This site was debunked a couple years ago. Sorry. Zero credibility.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 9:47 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:21 am to
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More O pumpers rejecting statistics and data because it doesn’t sit well with their preferred viewpoint.


YOU too can be an instant statistician! - On their home page, at top right, click, sign up, and you're in!

[Their newest article is from December 2018. And their second-newest article is from September of 2018]



LINK
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 8:28 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:25 am to
We’ve been citing Football Outsiders, Weirdo Joe (Ree). What other data and statistics do you purposefully ignore?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:31 am to
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We’ve been citing Football Outsiders


Directly above, you are pimping for (chuckle) CFB Film Room - debunked on Big-10 websites in 2017
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 8:32 am
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:46 am to
Joe Burrow is a fricking soldier
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:30 am to
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And some that weren't. #33 - Alabama #50 - UCF #58 - Auburn

You can’t go by rankings. Teams that are easy to run on are “good” statistically against the pass. That’s because no one bothers to throw on them much. I promise Bama was one of the top five teams defending the pass. But no one could run on them, so they threw the ball a lot. Thus Bama’s pass defense stats look mediocre. But the reality is the emphases on passing led to sacks and fumbles that don’t show in the passing stats.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:07 am to
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You can’t go by rankings. Teams that are easy to run on are “good” statistically against the pass.
Good points. Also, teams that score much more than the norm are at a disadvantage in the D rankings.

Look at teams that score 8 times a game vs teams that score 4. That's 4 additional possessions for the opponent. That's the same as 4 turnovers. (Also, teams who play high scoring programs are forced to throw the ball more.)

Extra possession affect passing and total defense rankings.

The average number of possessions is 12. Four more is 33.3%. So 300 yards of total defense ranks 10th best. Add 33.3% and you're at 400 yards of total defense. That is a 68th place ranking.

Also barely mid-major teams are lumped in with ranked teams. Makes no sense. Bowling Greens pass D is top-10?

This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:11 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:09 am to
You can post all the stats you want from LAST YEAR.... they mean nothing for this upcoming year... not a thing......
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:11 am to
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You can post all the stats you want from LAST YEAR.... they mean nothing for this upcoming year... not a thing......
Thanks for the news flash, Dookie.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30501 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:16 am to
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Look at teams that score 8 times a game vs teams that score 4. That's 4 additional possessions for the opponent. That's the same as 4 turnovers

It’s not 4 additional possessions. If those drives didn’t end in a score they would have ended with a punt or turnover, which also would have given the ball back to the other team.

Pace is what puts them at a disadvantage and leads to additional possessions.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:25 am to
And Burrow is NOT throwing for 3,500 yards this season......
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:26 am to
He doesn’t understand football much... give him a break.
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