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re: Rewatching the Fiesta Bowl - Thoughts on Burrow.

Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:00 pm to
OK, Earl. Just a ban bet til January 15, 2020. Got enough balls for that?
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 8:02 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:26 pm to
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OK, Earl. Just a ban bet til January 15, 2020. Got enough balls for that?



You want to make a ban bet when the teams LSU will face finished the 2018 season ranked 54th, 77th, 85th and 110th in the FBS and a Southland team from the FCS that finished the year with a 5-6 record?

You sure sound like you got a lot of confidence in Burrow there Joe.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:42 pm to
Utah State was #22 in the final AP poll, and Texas was #9. That's 20% 2018 ranked teams. Decent SOS in anybody's book. But I've chalked you up as a no. Pussy

Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:08 pm to
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Utah State was #22 in the final AP poll, and Texas was #9. That's 20% 2018 ranked teams. Decent SOS in anybody's book. But I've chalked you up as a no.


Utah State had the 77th ranked pass defense last year. Texas had the 110th.

You're really going out on a limb with that ban bet.

Sweeten the pot. Raise the completion percentage. Make it 78% or better since you're so sure of yourself and you're the one who wants to make the bet.

Or don't. Pussy.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:20 pm to
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You're really going out on a limb with that ban bet.


I'll go 70.08% or better. That would be the 2nd highest completion percentage in the entire NCAA FBS for 2018.

If you turn down that bet, then you're admitting that Burrow is a Top-5 QB.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 10:55 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:36 pm to
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I'll go 70.08% or better.


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If you turn down that bet, then you're admitting that Burrow is a Top-5 QB.



No. No I'm not admitting burrow is a top 5 QB. He wasn't last year at any rate.

If you don't go at least as high as 75% ( especially when you take into account the murders row of pass defenses he'll face the first 5 games of the season. LOL) then you're admitting Burrow is not a top 5 QB.

And remember, that's been the stance you've had since you joined Tigerdroppings.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:45 pm to
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If you don't go at least as high as 75%
I guess you don't follow the passing game much. I went back 5 years, and 75% is higher than any QB in the FBS.

I think you know full well that Burrow is a top-5 QB, and will pile up the stats in the Spread/RPO.
On the NCAA site, 70.5 ties ties the highest completion average in 2017 (Baker Mayfield).

This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:08 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:58 pm to
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I guess you don't follow the passing game much. I went back 5 years, and 75% is higher than any QB in the FBS.


Well, you're the one making the kid out to be something he's not at this point of time. So if you don't want to make it 75% minimum, that's on you. And remember, you're the one who wanted to place a bet.

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I think you know full well that Burrow is a top-5 QB, and will pile up the stats in the Spread/RPO.


He hasn't done it yet. So no I don't know full well that the young man is a top 5 QB.

He might turn out to be one after the season is over. But as of right now, he isn't.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:01 pm to
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He might turn out to be one after the season is over. But as of right now, he isn't.

He is. You just haven't seen enough of him Nor seen him in a Spread/RPO type offense. You're in for a treat.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32132 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:06 pm to
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You just haven't seen enough of him



We saw him all last season moron. The kid is a warrior. You freaking suck for trying to get people to say bad things about the kid.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:16 pm to
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We saw him all last season moron.
You saw him with next to no team practice, and in a third-rate offensive scheme.

You're clueless. And the entire board will soon see that. You wouldn't know a top-5 QB from a bird turd. All you can do is read off the numbers after the dust has settled.

Watch and learn.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32132 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:19 pm to
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You saw him with next to no team practice


He played all season.


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You're clueless


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You wouldn't know a top-5 QB from a bird turd


This coming from a guy that contradicts himself all the time and who said I was lying when I quoted your own posts.



This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:22 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:28 pm to
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He played all season.
At the start of the season he had 4 weeks of team practice. Most starting QB's have a couple years. Even true freshmen get on campus in January. Football's not really your game, right?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32132 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:32 pm to
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At the start of the season he had 4 weeks of team practice


He had experience playing before, correct? It wasn't like those 4 weeks of team practice were the first time he has ever practiced football, right?


You're acting like he came in with no prior football playing experience.

This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:33 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:34 pm to
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He had experience playing before, correct? I


Very little, only mop up duty.
Year two will be awesome. I expect him to push a few LSU records
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32132 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:37 pm to
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Very little, only mop up duty.



Right but it's experience. And he learned from one of the best coaches that had coached football.

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Year two will be awesome


I agree. He got better as the season went on.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:41 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:43 pm to
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Right but it's experience


Absolutely none with anyone or any scheme at LSU.
In three years he threw 39 passes
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32132 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:43 pm to
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Absolutely none with anyone


Is it or isn't it football experience? I realize it was with no one at LSU, he was at a completely different school. But he had football experience. I'm not saying that experience turned him into Joe Montana but it was some experience.


My point is he was hardly green to playing football last season. That's all I'm getting at.


He got better as the season went on and I expect him to be better this season.

That's all I'm getting at.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 11:47 pm
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10042 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:51 pm to
It absolutely isn't. You make the point that Burrow got practice starting all season, and check the stats toward the end of the season. It's a very large increase in efficiency and overall production.

Yeah, shitty defenses. When does an LSU QB every consistently perform even against shitty defenses?

Joe will be better next year. He has 80% of his 2018 production returning, an offensive line that will have a bit of experience, what should be a much improved running game, as well as entire year of developing chemistry with his receivers.

Barring injury he will throw for 3000+ and 20+ TDs. Unless Brady/Ensminger/O don't want him running, he will likely run for another 500 and 4-5 TDs. These are not bold predictions. With everything coming together the way it is, I would be willing to bet it's more likely than not.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:55 pm to
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Is it or isn't it football experience?


Are you under some delusion that all experience is equal?

He had 40 pass attempts in 3 years. That's minimal experience
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