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Rewatched the game.........(WARNING: TL;DR)
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:49 am
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:49 am
I've done this same thread many times over the years, and it usually leads to some good discussion and perspective for everyone that doesn't have the time or inclination to rewatch all the games. I get as pissed and worried as anyone watching a game, but it's always pretty remarkable how different a game feels without the emotion and the unknown outcome still in doubt.
This game was a damn good use of game planning by the coaching staff, and if it wasn't for a couple of plays, the entire mood of the rant would be much different right now.
I will highlight a couple of thoughts about Dural, who I feel has been unfairly blasted by many on here, with the mob mentality that takes over sometimes when a comment gets thrown out there and people just run with it. Yes, his drop at the end of the half that made us settle for a FG was a bad bad drop. But it was clear that he simply turned his head before looking the ball in because he was thinking end zone and was trying to make his move early. But that was the ONLY bad drop he had, and if anything it was a mistake trying to make too much effort, not a lack of it. Anyway, here's my breakdown, broken into a couple of posts:
This game was a damn good use of game planning by the coaching staff, and if it wasn't for a couple of plays, the entire mood of the rant would be much different right now.
I will highlight a couple of thoughts about Dural, who I feel has been unfairly blasted by many on here, with the mob mentality that takes over sometimes when a comment gets thrown out there and people just run with it. Yes, his drop at the end of the half that made us settle for a FG was a bad bad drop. But it was clear that he simply turned his head before looking the ball in because he was thinking end zone and was trying to make his move early. But that was the ONLY bad drop he had, and if anything it was a mistake trying to make too much effort, not a lack of it. Anyway, here's my breakdown, broken into a couple of posts:
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:49 am to Tiger Voodoo
1st Half:
First series, 3 and out forced by the D.
First offensive possession, a beautiful 8 play 73 yard TD drive. 5 runs, 2/3 passing. The first play of the game was the perfect rollout pass to Dupre for 19 yards. Great start.
The second pass, on a 1st down btw, was incomplete to Dural at the goal line. Here, the announcer Dan Hawkins, who was AWFUL to listen to, picks up on the narrative that many rantards are running with. He says that Dural should have "gone up" and "attacked" the football, but the pass was on a rope, not the type of throw that lends itself to a jump ball. I'm not saying it was a bad throw, but if Harris puts a bit more air under that ball, then you could argue Dural should have gone up for it. But the DB made a good play to break up the ball at the goal line, likely with a bit of help from his hands on Dural's hip, something that he was called for several times. Give him credit for a good play there though.
The very next play, Harris goes back to Dural in the flat, and Dural takes the 7 yard hitch and stiff arms the corner on the way to a great 27 yard gain that he nearly takes to the end zone. Great effort play and great design getting the ball to a playmaker in space.
Next play, 5 yard TD run by LF.
GREAT drive.
Next, another 3 and out forced by the D. D looks great so far.
Next LSU drive, Harris throws deep to Dural on 1st downplay action, pass interference called. Good throw with better air under it, and Dural likely makes the catch if DB isn't pulling him down and twisting him by the hip.
Then, another 1st down throw to Guice for 6, then LF runs for 1st.
Then, another 1st down play action pass to Dural right at the goal line, another pass interference with the DB twisting him by the hip. A perfect throw, right in his hands, Dural likely catches it if he isn't being twisted away from the ball. Still catchable arguably, but a clear PI that disrupted the catch.
Next play, another 1st down pass, quick in to Tyron, pretty well covered, ball came in pretty hot. Incomplete. (I'm not judging if others were open, bc the TV view doesn't show where the safeties are, and this is a quick hit play designed to get the ball to Tyron in space, but EMU covered it well)
Next play, beautiful QB keeper by Harris out of the shotgun for a 21 YD TD run.
7:18 to play in first and 2 perfect series each by O and D so far. 14-0.
Next drive, EMU sinks and dunks for 35 yards on TWELVE plays, get down to the LSU 31, and Jamal gets the INT on the first play of the second quarter.
Truly, an almost perfect first quarter for LSU.
The next LSU possession, 3 and out. Incomplete pass to Dupre on 1st down, LF stuffed on 2nd, and BH sacked on 3rd and 9. Decent punt by Keehn.
D follows with a great 3 and out, pushing EMU back to a 3rd and 19 and a punt.
LSU then follows up with a 9 play 66 yd FG drive to get it to 17-0.
LF opened the drive with a 23 yd dash. Then two more LF runs put us in 3rd and 10. Harris makes a great read and throw to Jeter for 28 yds and get a huge 1st down. Throw maybe a little high but still an easy catch and actually didn't run Jeter into the defender coming over the top. Great call and execution.
Harris then keeps it on the QB option out of shotgun for a great 12 yard run and we're 1st and 10 from the 12.
Harris keeps it again on first for short gain, Williams then short gain on 2nd. 3rd and 7, Harris lobs one incomplete to Dupre in the corner of the end zone, and Hawkins again starts harping on "going up and getting it", but the throw was short and under thrown and Dupre is actually falling down as he's trying to come back to the ball with the defender running over the top of him. Again, not a jump ball situation. It was likely supposed to be the fade that worked so well against Syracuse, but Harris just misjudges the throw and drops it in short.
Settle for FG, and it's 17-0 with 6:45 to go in the half. Nearly perfect game so far. Not every play has worked obviously, but no complaints on game plan, execution, or effort.
Kick team then gives up a good return and EMU starts at the 41. They chip away for 6 plays to go 23 yards, picking up two 1st downs, and on 1st from the 36, Riley lets a receiver release with no safety help, not sure who was at fault, and it goes for a huge 30 yard gain to set them up at the 6 yard line. Really their only real successful play of the day.
They then draw up a nice run and the RB makes a nice effort to dive for the TD, he actually takes off from the 4 yard line as he was strung out and Beckwith was bearing down at the goal line.
Good play by them to get the game to 17-7 with 2:48 to go in the half.
Then, disaster strikes, and catastrophe syndrome in the air.
Harris throws incomplete to LF on 1st down, (can't see full field to know who else may have been open), then the sack fumble (not an INT imo) sets them up at the 3.
Great stop by Beckwith on 1st down to destroy a great design play that would have been a TD if not for his effort (also Hawkins' only bright spot as he declares Beckwith "brought the whole weight room with him" as he makes the huge stop at the sideline.
But they get the TD on the run up the middle and all of a sudden it's 17-14 despite a dominating half by LSU.
With no big plays, LSU used a lot of clock to get scores on 3 of their first 4 possessions, then the 2 quick TDs by EMU negated what was a great first 25 minutes of the half for LSU.
LSU takes over at the 24 with 2:04 till halftime, up 17-14.
Nice 15 yard run by LF to open the drive, then a short gain, and then another pass interference on a deep ball to Diarse. Bad throw, JD was wide open and the ball was severely under thrown making JD stop to come back to the ball. (Hawkins actually says great effort by Diarse to come back to the ball to force the PI, then goes on to repeat that these "great athletes by LSU have to go up and make a play". Complete idiot that guy.)
2 runs for 16 by LF and we're 1st and 10 from the 28 with 24 seconds to go.
Harris throws to the corner of the end zone on 1st to Dural, and it is hard to tell what happens. It appears to be too long of a throw over Dural's head, and Dural looked like he was expecting a jump ball. Not sure who is at fault, but looked like miscommunication or a bad throw imo.
2nd and 10 with 20 seconds, and Harris overthrows Dural on a quick out to the sideline. Dural jumps and gets a hand on it, but certainly not a "drop".
3rd and 10, and here Dural absolutely drops the WIDE OPEN pass right in his hands as he's facing BH at the 7 yard line. Replay clearly shows he is turning his head to make a move for the end zone just before it gets to his hands. Again, this is not a lack of effort play, rather just trying to do too much here on a key 3rd down when we desperately needed to just get the 1st before thinking TD. Dural has been so close to several TDs, I can see why he was thinking 6, but he has to secure that 1st down. No question.
FG makes it 20-14 going into half time and EMU feeling pretty good despite being dominated throughout the half.
First series, 3 and out forced by the D.
First offensive possession, a beautiful 8 play 73 yard TD drive. 5 runs, 2/3 passing. The first play of the game was the perfect rollout pass to Dupre for 19 yards. Great start.
The second pass, on a 1st down btw, was incomplete to Dural at the goal line. Here, the announcer Dan Hawkins, who was AWFUL to listen to, picks up on the narrative that many rantards are running with. He says that Dural should have "gone up" and "attacked" the football, but the pass was on a rope, not the type of throw that lends itself to a jump ball. I'm not saying it was a bad throw, but if Harris puts a bit more air under that ball, then you could argue Dural should have gone up for it. But the DB made a good play to break up the ball at the goal line, likely with a bit of help from his hands on Dural's hip, something that he was called for several times. Give him credit for a good play there though.
The very next play, Harris goes back to Dural in the flat, and Dural takes the 7 yard hitch and stiff arms the corner on the way to a great 27 yard gain that he nearly takes to the end zone. Great effort play and great design getting the ball to a playmaker in space.
Next play, 5 yard TD run by LF.
GREAT drive.
Next, another 3 and out forced by the D. D looks great so far.
Next LSU drive, Harris throws deep to Dural on 1st downplay action, pass interference called. Good throw with better air under it, and Dural likely makes the catch if DB isn't pulling him down and twisting him by the hip.
Then, another 1st down throw to Guice for 6, then LF runs for 1st.
Then, another 1st down play action pass to Dural right at the goal line, another pass interference with the DB twisting him by the hip. A perfect throw, right in his hands, Dural likely catches it if he isn't being twisted away from the ball. Still catchable arguably, but a clear PI that disrupted the catch.
Next play, another 1st down pass, quick in to Tyron, pretty well covered, ball came in pretty hot. Incomplete. (I'm not judging if others were open, bc the TV view doesn't show where the safeties are, and this is a quick hit play designed to get the ball to Tyron in space, but EMU covered it well)
Next play, beautiful QB keeper by Harris out of the shotgun for a 21 YD TD run.
7:18 to play in first and 2 perfect series each by O and D so far. 14-0.
Next drive, EMU sinks and dunks for 35 yards on TWELVE plays, get down to the LSU 31, and Jamal gets the INT on the first play of the second quarter.
Truly, an almost perfect first quarter for LSU.
The next LSU possession, 3 and out. Incomplete pass to Dupre on 1st down, LF stuffed on 2nd, and BH sacked on 3rd and 9. Decent punt by Keehn.
D follows with a great 3 and out, pushing EMU back to a 3rd and 19 and a punt.
LSU then follows up with a 9 play 66 yd FG drive to get it to 17-0.
LF opened the drive with a 23 yd dash. Then two more LF runs put us in 3rd and 10. Harris makes a great read and throw to Jeter for 28 yds and get a huge 1st down. Throw maybe a little high but still an easy catch and actually didn't run Jeter into the defender coming over the top. Great call and execution.
Harris then keeps it on the QB option out of shotgun for a great 12 yard run and we're 1st and 10 from the 12.
Harris keeps it again on first for short gain, Williams then short gain on 2nd. 3rd and 7, Harris lobs one incomplete to Dupre in the corner of the end zone, and Hawkins again starts harping on "going up and getting it", but the throw was short and under thrown and Dupre is actually falling down as he's trying to come back to the ball with the defender running over the top of him. Again, not a jump ball situation. It was likely supposed to be the fade that worked so well against Syracuse, but Harris just misjudges the throw and drops it in short.
Settle for FG, and it's 17-0 with 6:45 to go in the half. Nearly perfect game so far. Not every play has worked obviously, but no complaints on game plan, execution, or effort.
Kick team then gives up a good return and EMU starts at the 41. They chip away for 6 plays to go 23 yards, picking up two 1st downs, and on 1st from the 36, Riley lets a receiver release with no safety help, not sure who was at fault, and it goes for a huge 30 yard gain to set them up at the 6 yard line. Really their only real successful play of the day.
They then draw up a nice run and the RB makes a nice effort to dive for the TD, he actually takes off from the 4 yard line as he was strung out and Beckwith was bearing down at the goal line.
Good play by them to get the game to 17-7 with 2:48 to go in the half.
Then, disaster strikes, and catastrophe syndrome in the air.
Harris throws incomplete to LF on 1st down, (can't see full field to know who else may have been open), then the sack fumble (not an INT imo) sets them up at the 3.
Great stop by Beckwith on 1st down to destroy a great design play that would have been a TD if not for his effort (also Hawkins' only bright spot as he declares Beckwith "brought the whole weight room with him" as he makes the huge stop at the sideline.
But they get the TD on the run up the middle and all of a sudden it's 17-14 despite a dominating half by LSU.
With no big plays, LSU used a lot of clock to get scores on 3 of their first 4 possessions, then the 2 quick TDs by EMU negated what was a great first 25 minutes of the half for LSU.
LSU takes over at the 24 with 2:04 till halftime, up 17-14.
Nice 15 yard run by LF to open the drive, then a short gain, and then another pass interference on a deep ball to Diarse. Bad throw, JD was wide open and the ball was severely under thrown making JD stop to come back to the ball. (Hawkins actually says great effort by Diarse to come back to the ball to force the PI, then goes on to repeat that these "great athletes by LSU have to go up and make a play". Complete idiot that guy.)
2 runs for 16 by LF and we're 1st and 10 from the 28 with 24 seconds to go.
Harris throws to the corner of the end zone on 1st to Dural, and it is hard to tell what happens. It appears to be too long of a throw over Dural's head, and Dural looked like he was expecting a jump ball. Not sure who is at fault, but looked like miscommunication or a bad throw imo.
2nd and 10 with 20 seconds, and Harris overthrows Dural on a quick out to the sideline. Dural jumps and gets a hand on it, but certainly not a "drop".
3rd and 10, and here Dural absolutely drops the WIDE OPEN pass right in his hands as he's facing BH at the 7 yard line. Replay clearly shows he is turning his head to make a move for the end zone just before it gets to his hands. Again, this is not a lack of effort play, rather just trying to do too much here on a key 3rd down when we desperately needed to just get the 1st before thinking TD. Dural has been so close to several TDs, I can see why he was thinking 6, but he has to secure that 1st down. No question.
FG makes it 20-14 going into half time and EMU feeling pretty good despite being dominated throughout the half.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:50 am to Tiger Voodoo
2nd Half:
The first play by LF speaks for itself, but I've seen a lot of talk about Dural "walking off the field" here, and using it as proof of his lack of effort or team spirit, I guess.
But Dural made an absolutely key and excellent block to spring LF. He may have scored anyway, but Dural came back and dropped his shoulder into an EMU defender giving chase that actually caused THREE EMU pursuers to change course and gave LF just the slight head start he needed to really make it an easy TD. LF may well have outrun them all anyway, but Dural's pretty vicious hit made it a stroll in the park to the end zone.
The end zone replay view also clearly shows Dural trailing LF until at least midfield when LF is already strolling into the end zone. If he broke to the sideline and walked off after that (I don't know either way because there isn't a view after that), maybe he was shaking off the hit he delivered with his shoulder, or maybe he was just going to meet LF on the sideline to celebrate. Regardless, I don't see that play as a criticism of Dural in any way whatsoever.
LSU 27-14.
EMU then goes 29 yards in 6 plays, and misses a 53 yd FG. The D has been outstanding outside of the one blown coverage to this point, even though we have been doing mass substitutions and developing lots of depth in the front seven throughout the game.
2 LF runs after that get a 1st down, then a Teuhema false start puts us in a hole, then LF loses yardage and we're at an ugly 2nd and 20. Harris in shotgun with 4 wides in the game and BH throws incomplete to Tyron. Not sure how the coverage was up top from this view, but Tyron has one on one at the bottom, so not necessarily a bad decision, but he was well covered too. Kind of a play that just seemed like wasn't there, although Hawkins babbled about a back shoulder thought that was thrown inside. Not sure what the route was but it was one on one with good coverage on a WR that isn't seasoned in gaining separation yet. Good D by EMU.
3rd and 20, still shotgun and 4 wide, and BH appears to make a good decision and pulls it down mid delivery and tries to run but is sacked. Good coverage again and BH doesn't force anything. Good punt by Keehn pins EMU at the 12.
D gives up 8 yards in 5 plays. Punt. D still looking great with 6 minutes left in the 3rd. 27-14.
LSU then goes 3 straight LF runs for 14 yds, and then DW breaks off the 40 yarder to set up 1st and goal from the 7 with under 4 in the 3rd. We try to get DW the score with 2 runs, end up in 3rd and 5.
Harris then throws incomplete to Dupre in the end zone. It's a drop for sure, but the ball is behind him and turned him all the way around when BH could have just led him for an easy catch as he was wide open in the back of the end zone. Still, both hands on it, not really a fastball, should have been a catch for sure.
Another point about this play, Dural is shown running back to the sideline with Dupre with his hand on his shoulder talking to him the whole way. He is clearly being a leader and trying to help a teammate that just had a costly mistake. Definitely worth noting given all of the criticism he's taken this week.
FG makes it 30-14 with 2:17 in the 3rd.
Next drive is bad for LSU D. 4 straight passes. All complete. 13 yds, 8 yds, 33 yds, then 12 yd TD. Good designs by EMU. Sloppy coverage. Bad tackling and pursuit on the 33 yarder. Bad series by D for sure. First of the night.
30-22 with 52 seconds in the 3rd.
Missed onside kick, and LSU starts at the 43. 5 straight runs by LF, and it's a Tiger TD to answer and get to 37-22 with 14 to play.
Defense then makes right up for the bad drive with the pick six on the third play of the next drive and it's 44-22.
D then lets EMU march a bit, giving up 51 yards on 8 plays before Toliver makes the pick at the 2.
LSU then runs the final 8:30 of the game out on 14 straight runs.
44-22.
D had one bad series.
Two bad drops.
One sack/fumbleINT that gave EMU an easy 5 yd TD drive.
The game was not bad, and LSU worked on the passing game a ton, and got lots of depth worked in on D.
4-0.
The first play by LF speaks for itself, but I've seen a lot of talk about Dural "walking off the field" here, and using it as proof of his lack of effort or team spirit, I guess.
But Dural made an absolutely key and excellent block to spring LF. He may have scored anyway, but Dural came back and dropped his shoulder into an EMU defender giving chase that actually caused THREE EMU pursuers to change course and gave LF just the slight head start he needed to really make it an easy TD. LF may well have outrun them all anyway, but Dural's pretty vicious hit made it a stroll in the park to the end zone.
The end zone replay view also clearly shows Dural trailing LF until at least midfield when LF is already strolling into the end zone. If he broke to the sideline and walked off after that (I don't know either way because there isn't a view after that), maybe he was shaking off the hit he delivered with his shoulder, or maybe he was just going to meet LF on the sideline to celebrate. Regardless, I don't see that play as a criticism of Dural in any way whatsoever.
LSU 27-14.
EMU then goes 29 yards in 6 plays, and misses a 53 yd FG. The D has been outstanding outside of the one blown coverage to this point, even though we have been doing mass substitutions and developing lots of depth in the front seven throughout the game.
2 LF runs after that get a 1st down, then a Teuhema false start puts us in a hole, then LF loses yardage and we're at an ugly 2nd and 20. Harris in shotgun with 4 wides in the game and BH throws incomplete to Tyron. Not sure how the coverage was up top from this view, but Tyron has one on one at the bottom, so not necessarily a bad decision, but he was well covered too. Kind of a play that just seemed like wasn't there, although Hawkins babbled about a back shoulder thought that was thrown inside. Not sure what the route was but it was one on one with good coverage on a WR that isn't seasoned in gaining separation yet. Good D by EMU.
3rd and 20, still shotgun and 4 wide, and BH appears to make a good decision and pulls it down mid delivery and tries to run but is sacked. Good coverage again and BH doesn't force anything. Good punt by Keehn pins EMU at the 12.
D gives up 8 yards in 5 plays. Punt. D still looking great with 6 minutes left in the 3rd. 27-14.
LSU then goes 3 straight LF runs for 14 yds, and then DW breaks off the 40 yarder to set up 1st and goal from the 7 with under 4 in the 3rd. We try to get DW the score with 2 runs, end up in 3rd and 5.
Harris then throws incomplete to Dupre in the end zone. It's a drop for sure, but the ball is behind him and turned him all the way around when BH could have just led him for an easy catch as he was wide open in the back of the end zone. Still, both hands on it, not really a fastball, should have been a catch for sure.
Another point about this play, Dural is shown running back to the sideline with Dupre with his hand on his shoulder talking to him the whole way. He is clearly being a leader and trying to help a teammate that just had a costly mistake. Definitely worth noting given all of the criticism he's taken this week.
FG makes it 30-14 with 2:17 in the 3rd.
Next drive is bad for LSU D. 4 straight passes. All complete. 13 yds, 8 yds, 33 yds, then 12 yd TD. Good designs by EMU. Sloppy coverage. Bad tackling and pursuit on the 33 yarder. Bad series by D for sure. First of the night.
30-22 with 52 seconds in the 3rd.
Missed onside kick, and LSU starts at the 43. 5 straight runs by LF, and it's a Tiger TD to answer and get to 37-22 with 14 to play.
Defense then makes right up for the bad drive with the pick six on the third play of the next drive and it's 44-22.
D then lets EMU march a bit, giving up 51 yards on 8 plays before Toliver makes the pick at the 2.
LSU then runs the final 8:30 of the game out on 14 straight runs.
44-22.
D had one bad series.
Two bad drops.
One sack/fumbleINT that gave EMU an easy 5 yd TD drive.
The game was not bad, and LSU worked on the passing game a ton, and got lots of depth worked in on D.
4-0.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 11:57 am
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:50 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:52 am to Tiger Voodoo
Dural quit on that fly route that would have been an easy TD, he stopped way too early.
Flat out, he has underperformed this year, numerous drops, probably almost totalling his actual catches (not the shovel pass stuff included).
Flat out, he has underperformed this year, numerous drops, probably almost totalling his actual catches (not the shovel pass stuff included).
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:53 am to Tiger Voodoo
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But it was clear that he simply turned his head before looking the ball in because he was thinking end zone and was trying to make his move early.
nice to make an excuse for a college kid who should've made an easy catch. He'll bounce back from his horrible game, I have no doubt and I have nothing but love for the kid, but he couldn't catch a cold Saturday night, let alone a football.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:56 am to Tiger Voodoo
Good write up. I disagree with your conclusions about Dural but agree with the rest of the post.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:59 am to WackyChris
he was already known (at least to me) for having not particularly good hands, so it's harder for me just to give him a pass the way you do. He completely misjudged the ball in the endzone, Harris made a perfect throw. He really is just not all that good a receiver, He is very one dimensional with his only asset being running deep routes, where he still suffers from bad hands., I think we have a lot better recievers on the roster and would just like to move on.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:11 pm to TigerRagAndrew
quote:Agree or disagree, he is an LSU Tiger and you, along with every other tiger fan, should stick up for him every chance you get.
I disagree with your conclusions about Dural but agree with the rest of the post.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:12 pm to boxcar willie
Thanks for the post. By Wednesday the negatigers will disappear.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:15 pm to boxcar willie
quote:
he was already known (at least to me) for having not particularly good hands, so it's harder for me just to give him a pass the way you do. He completely misjudged the ball in the endzone, Harris made a perfect throw. He really is just not all that good a receiver, He is very one dimensional with his only asset being running deep routes, where he still suffers from bad hands., I think we have a lot better recievers on the roster and would just like to move on.
Yeah I'm not making any judgement about him as an overall player. Just based on this particular game.
He had one drop. It was bad, and a big one, but again, the video CLEARLY shows his head turning to make a move before the ball gets there. He was thinking 6. Still bad, but not a lack of effort or even an indictment of his hands there. Just didn't look it in. No excuse.
As for the one in the end zone, again, I just don't know how anyone can claim it was a "perfect throw" when we don't know the route called. The ball was way over his head several yards in the end zone and almost out of bounds while Dural is at the 6 yard line. He may have been at fault and cut his route short, but as it played out it was either a miscommunication or bad throw.
If anything it looked like Dural was setting up for a jump ball, but the ball sailed and he then tried to correct back to the end zone. The announcer even said "I'm not sure he knew where the ball was", but it is clear there was miscommunication, not a lack of effort.
Just going strictly by the video.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:18 pm to UserName69
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should stick up for him every chance you get.
For a WR in our system, it would be very easy to get disgruntled. Dural seems a very selfless player in the run game and one of our more effective blocking WRs, if not the most effective.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:21 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Dural really needs to get more consistent. He has all the potential to be a pro and I don't want to see his potential squandered by bad games on film.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:26 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Good analysis. Did you notice on the fade route to Dupre that LF was wide open over the middle for an easy TD. They need to call that play again out of that formation and just dump it to Fournette. Easy TD vs. field goal.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:27 pm to boxcar willie
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having not particularly good hands,
the catch at Florida says "hello."
quote:
He is very one dimensional with his only asset being running deep routes
jet sweeps and fly sweeps beginning against A&M last season say "hello" as well.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:27 pm to Ace Midnight
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Dural seems a very selfless player in the run game and one of our more effective blocking WRs, if not the most effective.
Again, I'm just going by this film, but Dural's block on LFs 75 yarder was absolutely one of those effort plays that usually goes completely unnoticed. It was a very good effort play and one I might not have noticed if not for all the criticism he took ABOUT THAT VERY PLAY because he supposedly walked off the field.
It just shows how uninformed so much of the criticism is on this site, and how one person says something and the mob runs with it.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:28 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:
Dural quit on that fly route that would have been an easy TD, he stopped way too early.
He certainly stopped way to early but he also didn't quit. I think he misjudged the ball and thought it was going to be a jump ball.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:32 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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It was a very good effort play
He delivered a number of key blocks on the highlight reel runs against Auburn - 2 on 1 play, in fact. I do not question his effort in the run game. He is our most proven receiver. I can't say he is particularly sure-handed, but I can't say that about any of our current crop of receivers. Part of this may be accurate (and, insofar as we're talking about amateur athletes ~20 years old, fair), part of this is related to our recent QB woes, and part of this is the aftermath of being blessed with not 1, but 2 NFL starting quality receivers on the 2013 team.
But, Dural is a great deep threat AND a great run blocker. That is why he takes most offensive snaps.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:33 pm to Tigerik
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Good analysis. Did you notice on the fade route to Dupre that LF was wide open over the middle for an easy TD. They need to call that play again out of that formation and just dump it to Fournette. Easy TD vs. field goal.
I did and you're absolutely right. I meant to mention it, but post was already a bit lengthy
It looked like BH was going fade no matter what. Looked right that way at the snap and was already in motion throwing it when the LB went to the flat leaving LF standing in the middle of the end zone with no safety.
No doubt the coaches will see that on film and BH will be looking for it in November.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:36 pm to Tiger Voodoo
I agree with most of what you've said. But Dural was not the only offender of a bad drop. Idk what Chi's deal is. But the kid can't hang onto the ball this year.
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