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re: Reminder: our OC never left

Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:52 pm to
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Well one key difference is O got the 4 and 5-wide receiver sets he had been talking about since 2017 when he said he didn't have the receivers to implement it. Someone (Brady) had to convince O and Ensminger thbat the QB was better off with more options rather than less to throw to with passing plays. It was proven about this time last season that it could work. The play design began there. This meant Cregg had to implement a blocking scheme that protected the QB using 5-men with a TE chipping. The design was a collaboration which included Burrow to implement. If Burrow didn't like it, it was not part of the play-calling. In short, it was a collaboration that built around 5-man protection Cregg's 5-man protection, Brady's red-zone passing re-design, and Ensminger's hurry-up concepts. Again, Ensminger called the plays between the 20-yard lines and Brady called plays inside the 20. That has been said by Ensminger and Orgeron.
Brady
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66124 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:53 pm to
That the offense was overhauled before Brady arrived. The offense was changed in 2018, Ensminger tried to construct an offense Orgeron talked about but the end result wasn’t very good so Brady was brought in to design a mesh of RPO and run game concepts he’d picked up from different college coaches and Sean Payton’s New Orleans Saints passing game. The 2019 offense was entirely new. Joe Burrow commented that when he opened the new playbook for the first time page 1 was all new stuff, then page 2 then on and on was all completely new. The Olineman made comments that their assignments and responsibilities was all new stuff. I know you guys are scared so you trick yourselves into thinking Brady wasn’t all that but you’re wrong. We hope Ensminger learned enough and retained enough of it to keep it going but it wasn’t his offense.
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 5:56 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66501 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:56 pm to
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It all started with a meeting after LSU had just suffered an embarrassing 29-0 shutout home loss to Alabama. The offense looked overmatched and out of style. Orgeron knew he needed to make a change, so he called Ensminger into his office.
"We didn't score any points against Alabama," Orgeron said. "It was a low point and I told him, I said, listen, we've got to go to the spread. And he said, 'you're right.' 



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In January, as winter workouts began at LSU, offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger walked into the quarterback meeting room, distributed a new playbook and told his players, “We’re going to the spread, baby!”


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66501 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:57 pm to
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Joe Burrow commented that when he opened the new playbook for the first time page 1 was all new stuff, then page 2 then on and on was all completely new. The Olineman made comments that their assignments and responsibilities was all new stuff. 


Again, link?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66124 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:58 pm to
Brady was hired in January lol
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66124 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:00 pm to
Lol so you’re one of those guys. Uhh the worst.
Posted by cajunguy
In your house, LA
Member since Jan 2016
2471 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:01 pm to
Good info. I honestly did not know that. LSU should give you a high paying salary for putting this valuable info out there. Well done seriously. I bet you were validictorian huh. First to report valuable info that no one knew
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66501 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:01 pm to
This

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Brady was brought in to design a mesh of RPO and run game concepts he’d picked up from different college coaches and Sean Payton’s New Orleans Saints passing game.


Is not this

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“Lucked out with all that,” Brady says. He’s humble. It is not his offense, he says, but is instead a conglomeration of ideas from the staff organized by Ensminger. He’s too modest to tell you that many of the ideas are his, the drop-back passing concepts from Payton and the RPO game from Moorhead.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66501 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:03 pm to
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Lol so you’re one of those guys. Uhh the worst.


Hey, you said I called Brady and the players liars yet you havent provided a single source for anything you've said.

Meanwhile, what you say goes against what the coaching staff has said the entire year so perhaps you're calling the entire coaching staff (including Brady) liars.
Posted by Zeek
Nashville Tn
Member since May 2013
681 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:08 pm to
Nobody said that it was just the players that made it successful. Joe Burrow said that the new offense has answers for anything that a defense might might try to do. Now who do you think has to execute and figure out exactly what should be done at that point the coaches and the players. Next year in the SEC more teams are going to run a concept of the spread offense. To think that some of our plays aren't being ran by other teams is delusional. We live in a copycat society.LSU had the perfect scheme being ran by the perfect group of players.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66124 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:16 pm to
Wow, a projectionist i see. No wonder you operate on pure delusion and fear.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66501 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:17 pm to
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Wow, a projectionist i see. No wonder you operate on pure delusion and fear. 


Again, I've posted sources for what I say.

You've hurled insults.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66124 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:18 pm to
Ok first off every player within every system has to execute their respective offenses so acting like we’re unique in that regard makes no sense. Secondly of course teams will try to copy us but that has literally no bearing on what teams ran compared to us last season.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66124 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:19 pm to
No you haven’t not a single time. And again you’re accusing me of things you’ve also done. Do you work for cable news or something?
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 6:21 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66501 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:27 pm to
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No you haven’t not a single time. 


I posted snippets from several articles with quotes from coaches.

Sorry youre blind?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66124 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:30 pm to
Look you guys can continue trying to convince yourself that was Ensmingers offense. I know you’re scared and overcompensating by creating delusional realities so it’s ok. But there’s a reason Brady was poached, there’s a reason he won the Briles Award, there’s a reason the offensive production was completely different, there’s a reason even Munoz was poached over Ensminger, there’s a reason football players and people who are paid to run programs and organizations recognize Brady and the offenses architect. But hey a few Rant guys always think they know better so go ahead, this happens anytime someone leaves before the Rant is ready for them to leave.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66124 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:31 pm to
Lol you posted snippets that were 100% misleading which is why you didn’t post links. Ok I’m done you’re dishonest and delusional, there can be no rational objective conversation with you.
Posted by Zeek
Nashville Tn
Member since May 2013
681 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:32 pm to
We were unique, execution is what set us apart last year.You talk like any 11 players would have duplicated our success. Trevor Lawrence had 13 inaccurate passes in the Championship game, that played a huge difference in the outcome. A play called that's not executed right is nothing, regardless of who is calling the play.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66501 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:38 pm to
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, there’s a reason even Munoz was poached over Ensminger,


Have you missed the part where E wants to retire from LSU and he doesnt want to coach till he's 80? Why the frick would he want to go to somewhere like Baylor?

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there’s a reason football players and people who are paid to run programs and organizations recognize Brady and the offenses architect.


Is that why the Cardinals hired Kliff Kingsbury as their head coach even though he couldnt cut it at Texas Tech? Cause people who are paid to run football programs and organizations are always right? Or is because he's a young, offensive guy?

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Lol you posted snippets that were 100% misleading which is why you didn’t post links


I can post links if you'd like.

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I’m done you’re dishonest and delusional, there can be no rational objective conversation with you.


Wow. Great case you made for your "opinions".
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 6:43 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19731 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:41 pm to
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In January, as winter workouts began at LSU, offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger walked into the quarterback meeting room, distributed a new playbook and told his players, “We’re going to the spread, baby!”
well, that wasn’t his spread. It was Brady’s.

If E had it, he would’ve implemented it in 2018, when we had virtually all of the same pieces.
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