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re: Regional sites
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:35 pm to Jaketigger
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:35 pm to Jaketigger
Huh!? We have a very nice facility for baseball. We dont have a 10k plus seater but it is very nice and would be a great site for a regional!
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:36 pm to crowbar832001
My two cents fella's, which may or may not be wanted.
The ONLY time a 2 seed has ever hosted, has been because of construction OR a scheduling conflict at the #1 seeds location.
Arkansas hosted about 4 or 5 years ago as a 2 seed ONLY because Oklahoma State had a convention scheduled in Stillwater that same weekend. This is the ONLY reason we hosted that regional.
I can only think of one other time when it happened, and I believe it involved Coastal Carolina. Coastal had construction going on at their stadium, and it hurt their capacity and they traveled as a #1 seed.
Money does not matter in the eyes of the committee.
Over the last 3-4 years, the NCAA has been more concerned about spreading the regional sites out fairly regionally.
As for schools such as UConn, who have good chances at hosting, they have a minor league stadium very near by that is included in their bid.
The ONLY time a 2 seed has ever hosted, has been because of construction OR a scheduling conflict at the #1 seeds location.
Arkansas hosted about 4 or 5 years ago as a 2 seed ONLY because Oklahoma State had a convention scheduled in Stillwater that same weekend. This is the ONLY reason we hosted that regional.
I can only think of one other time when it happened, and I believe it involved Coastal Carolina. Coastal had construction going on at their stadium, and it hurt their capacity and they traveled as a #1 seed.
Money does not matter in the eyes of the committee.
Over the last 3-4 years, the NCAA has been more concerned about spreading the regional sites out fairly regionally.
As for schools such as UConn, who have good chances at hosting, they have a minor league stadium very near by that is included in their bid.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:39 pm to MOT
No you said money doesn't carry weight. LSU needs to get to the SEC championship game (not win it) to host IMO. There is a reason they have hosted for 18 of the last 20 years. Money and fans have a lot to do with it but they need to win at least 3 games in Hoover to do that.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:40 pm to Hawgeye
NM
This post was edited on 5/22/10 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:42 pm to crowbar832001
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No you said money doesn't carry weight. LSU needs to get to the SEC championship game (not win it) to host IMO. There is a reason they have hosted for 18 of the last 20 years. Money and fans have a lot to do with it but they need to win at least 3 games in Hoover to do that.
THIS !!!!
And to the people that said UConn will host from a Minor league park....just how many people do you think will be at those games ? I'm going under 3 thousand. Same with UC Irvine. For Louisville I'm going with under 4 thousand. Equalling not much revunue for the School, so making the bid they put into the NCAA not a very big one.
LSU can put 10 thousand in the seats and make plenty of money for themselves allowing them to put in a very healthy bid to be a host.
This post was edited on 5/22/10 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:45 pm to crowbar832001
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No you said money doesn't carry weight. LSU needs to get to the SEC championship game (not win it) to host IMO. There is a reason they have hosted for 18 of the last 20 years. Money and fans have a lot to do with it but they need to win at least 3 games in Hoover to do that.
Money doesn't carry any weight
Accommodations & site to host carry the most weight when the NCAA is considering regional host sites.
Arkansas put in a bid last season to host the Super Regionals. Why didnt we get it, since our stadium would guarantee the NCAA 4k more fans which in turn would bring in more money?
They do not care about money, period.
It is about being fair. Fair is not having 6-7 regional sites in the SEC.
Just the way it is.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:47 pm to Hawgeye
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They do not care about money, period.
We talking about the same NCAA ?
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:49 pm to crowbar832001
Please quote where I said money doesn't carry weight. I said it doesn't carry what it used to and that is a fact.
The more some people try to argue the
more you prove my point. I say money isn't as big of a factor as it once was and people point out teams that won't draw, like Irvine
and UConn, will likely host. Others talk about money being the biggest deciding factor, and
then talk about what we need to do in the tourney. If money is so important then the case is closed. It shouldn't matter what we do from here forward.
The more some people try to argue the
more you prove my point. I say money isn't as big of a factor as it once was and people point out teams that won't draw, like Irvine
and UConn, will likely host. Others talk about money being the biggest deciding factor, and
then talk about what we need to do in the tourney. If money is so important then the case is closed. It shouldn't matter what we do from here forward.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:50 pm to MrWiseGuy
Yes, the same NCAA
Who would LSU host over in the SEC?
Who would LSU host over in the SEC?
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:50 pm to Hawgeye
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Arkansas put in a bid last season to host the Super Regionals.
Wait, My memory is horrible I guess. Did yall host a sub regional or not ? Weren't yall like 14-16 last year in the SEC ? You expected a SUPER regional ?
Please help me clear this up...I'm confused
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:51 pm to Hawgeye
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Who would LSU host over in the SEC?
They'd screw someone else...Like TCU and send them to LSU to be the #1 Seed...Just the way it is.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:51 pm to Hawgeye
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The ONLY time a 2 seed has ever hosted, has been because of construction OR a scheduling conflict at the #1 seeds location
WRONG! LSU WAS A #2 more than once and hosted.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:53 pm to Jaketigger
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WRONG! LSU WAS A #2 more than once and hosted.
A few years ago Rice was the #1 seed, when they had 6 teams in a regional, I bleive LSU was the 3 seed next to CFSU (eventual champ) and Rice.
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:53 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Wait, My memory is horrible I guess. Did yall host a sub regional or not ? Weren't yall like 14-16 last year in the SEC ? You expected a SUPER regional ? Please help me clear this up...I'm confused
Your argument is that LSU would bring in more money.
So why did Arkansas not host a Super over FSU?
Our stadium holds around 4k more people, which = more money for a 3 game series.
Yes, we were 14-16 last year, yet LSU could end the season with a very similar record this year, and you are trying to convince me LSU would host?
And you use our SEC record last year as a point in your argument? Really?
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:54 pm to MrWiseGuy
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They'd screw someone else...Like TCU and send them to LSU to be the #1 Seed...Just the way it is
No they wouldn't
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:54 pm to Jaketigger
Years? Maybe 99 and 05? What were our league records and league finish?
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:55 pm to Jaketigger
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WRONG! LSU WAS A #2 more than once and hosted
In a 4 team regional format?
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:56 pm to Hawgeye
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Your argument is that LSU would bring in more money.
So why did Arkansas not host a Super over FSU?
Our stadium holds around 4k more people, which = more money for a 3 game series.
Yes, we were 14-16 last year, yet LSU could end the season with a very similar record this year, and you are trying to convince me LSU would host?
And you use our SEC record last year as a point in your argument? Really?
DUDE CALM DOWN....I'm asking did yall host a sub regional ? I can't remember....I'm not talking about LSU hosting a Super regional. I'm talking about LSU hostin a SUB regional.
And I'm pretty SURE Arkansas made a SIMY-RUN in the SEC tourny...maybe 2-2. If LSU made the CHAMPIONSHIP game, then yes it would carry a lot more weight than going 2-2
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:56 pm to Hawgeye
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In a 4 team regional format?
YEP
Posted on 5/22/10 at 5:57 pm to MOT
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Others talk about money being the biggest deciding factor, and
then talk about what we need to do in the tourney. If money is so important then the case is closed. It shouldn't matter what we do from here forward.
Well obviously they can't totally suck and host. That is common god damn sense. My point is if it comes down to LSU and 1 or 2 other teams that might have a slightly better resume, LSU will get the bid.
Am I not right?
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