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re: Regarding the policy on illegal streaming audio links...

Posted on 2/22/09 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 2/22/09 at 5:38 pm to
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VooDoo1321


Hey man, I emailed you earlier about "something."
This post was edited on 2/22/09 at 5:39 pm
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12721 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 5:40 pm to
Well, I am truly confused. I have been a subscriber to Geauxzone for several years, and have only had problems with it about once a year. And I'm not sure what the complaints about "no SEC Basketball games" is, because I watched the Miss State game on it and just watched some of the Auburn game on it this afternoon. Geauxzone is by no means a polished, professional production, but it does work inasmuch as it provides streaming audio and video for tons of LSU sporting events. The only big complaint I've had is when they switched from Eatel to XOS and wiped out the vast majority of the archived video footage (including old football games). Those archives were a significant reason I subscribed and I was pissed when they took them out.

The other thing I don't get is how everyone seems to think LSU is objecting to free streaming radio broadcasts. Unless Chicken misrepresented their message, all they are objecting to is ILLEGAL free streaming radio broadcasts. That is, streaming by people who have stolen it from legit, licensed broadcasters and are distributing it for their own financial gain. How do people not see the problem here?

Yes, Geauxzone should be WAAAAAAY better than it is, and it is a travesty that a sports program as successful as ours has to bear such a shameful service. But it works (at least in Arlington, VA, over a FiOS Cable Modem with Windows XP SP3). And illegal streaming of other people's property is, well, illegal. And it is illegal for a good reason. If someone steals something you produced and then went and made money off of it, I'd bet you'd ask them to stop, too.

So quit bitching about LSU and either find a legit streaming broadcast or subscribe to Geauxzone and figure out what the problem is and fix it. I'm no computer genius and I got it working; trust me, you can, too.

Posted by VooDoo1321
Virginia
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/22/09 at 5:42 pm to
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Hey man, I emailed you earlier about "something.
Did you get anything back? I have received a few e-mails, ...If not, e-mail me while my inbox and spam is empty.
Posted by VooDoo1321
Virginia
Member since May 2008
4362 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 5:47 pm to
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So quit bitching about LSU and either find a legit streaming broadcast or subscribe to Geauxzone and figure out what the problem is and fix it. I'm no computer genius and I got it working; trust me, you can, too.
With all due respect, I am somewhat computer savvy and the streams that I found for free were 10x better than the GZ, I was a member of th GZ for a while until I learned (found) of free sites that were MUCH better quality and I did not have to pay for them. Why should I pay for crappy streams when I can find better ones for free? And exactly what do you mean by "legit"? Just asking
Posted by LSUKNUT
Naples, Florida
Member since Jun 2007
2345 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 6:21 pm to
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So quit bitching about LSU and either find a legit streaming broadcast or subscribe to Geauxzone and figure out what the problem is and fix it.


OK smart guy, here's my problem. I've worked offshore 14 & 14 for 13 years. I work in an office so I have plenty of time to listen. Satellite internet in the Gulf is slow for everybody (Always has been / Always will). A lot of the rigs, platforms and companies share the bandwidth so Geaux Zone's weak arse shite is completely useless. I can name a million rinky dink, crappy arse sights that run 100 times better than GZ from out here. I paid my money like everyone else and didn't get shite out of the subscription the entire time I kept it. So not everyone is in a place where they have the power to FIX it D.A.

BTW - If you think I'm the only LSU fan offshore that got ripped off by their shitty website, you're sadly mistaken.
Posted by lathoroughbred
Louisiana/Kentucky
Member since May 2008
8114 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 6:26 pm to
LSUKNUT....I know where you are coming from offshore for 20....Chicken has to protect his site....yea dude it sucks...
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12721 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 6:41 pm to
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I am somewhat computer savvy and the streams that I found for free were 10x better than the GZ,
I know, I've seen them. I'm just talking about getting GZ to work.

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Why should I pay for crappy streams when I can find better ones for free?
If the better, free ones are legal, then you shouldn't pay for the crappy ones.

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And exactly what do you mean by "legit"?
Legal. That is, free streaming broadcasts by licensed outlets who have legal consent to offer the streaming feed. Like the radio station websites that offer streaming feeds.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12721 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 6:50 pm to
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I work in an office so I have plenty of time to listen. Satellite internet in the Gulf is slow for everybody (Always has been / Always will). A lot of the rigs, platforms and companies share the bandwidth so Geaux Zone's weak arse shite is completely useless.
I used to listen to GeauxZone broadcasts through a 28.8 dialup connection. But if you have bandwidth problems that won't let you hear the broadcast over GeauxZone or a legit streaming source, then you are unfortunately stuck. That does not make it somehow "wrong" or "bad" for LSU to object to people stealing their property and distributing for their own financial gain.

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So not everyone is in a place where they have the power to FIX it D.A.
I'm sure there are people in remote villages of Zimbabwe that can't get the GeauxZone broadcasts, either. Not sure how that makes it wrong for LSU to try and keep people from profitting from the theft of LSU property.

Maybe it's just my "P&G" glasses, but when I see people stealing LSU property (which the broadcasts are) and distributing it for their own personal gain, I have no problem with LSU trying to put a stop to it. I know that LSU protecting their property rights can impact the amount of LSU sports I get to see/hear; I live in Arlington, VA, where we've had all of like 2 basketball games on all season. But I'm not going to whine about what I don't get to see live just because some pricks don't get to steal LSU property and profit off of it.

Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28156 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 6:53 pm to
I have sent many emails about the terrible service I have recieved with the GeauxZone. I have NEVER recieved an email assisting me with technical difficulties. I was overseas for over a year and it was my only access to LSU sporting events. I lost count on the number of games I missed trying to restart my computer and mess with the settings, thinking it was something on my end. Anyways, I'll come back to them if they improve their service and they send me a letter of apology.
Posted by LSUKNUT
Naples, Florida
Member since Jun 2007
2345 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 6:54 pm to
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Chicken has to protect his site.


I don't blame Chicken for protecting his site one bit. I would do the same if I was in his place. I just don't like people saying we have no right to bitch about GZ just because they haven't had any problems with it. Truth is, way too many paying customers are completely dissatisfied with the service and that's obvious from the threads that pop up every 6 months about GZ.
Posted by LSU5803
Lafayette, La
Member since Jul 2004
1124 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 7:18 pm to
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I emailed you earlier about "something


I guess this will be the new game day threads, can someone email me "something" about the game
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11588 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 7:30 pm to
Pay to listen? F That.

I can find it for free w/o TigerDroppings. And if it's tv the internet usually has it. Tell LSU's Athletic Dept they should go after the source and not the links.

Laughable.
Posted by RelocatedPelican
Member since Dec 2008
1042 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 7:49 pm to
GZ has to be one of the most horrid services of its kind. The servers are slow, the broadcasts are of horrid quality, and the price is too high for service of its kind. Like LSU's own computer infrastrcuture, its an embarassment. GZ has no leg to stand on in this argument, as GZ is not losing any money from the free sites since the people looking at them wouldn't buy GZ services otherwise. Most sane folks would rather have no coverage of LSU atheltics than be subjected to the torture that is GZ.
Posted by VooDoo1321
Virginia
Member since May 2008
4362 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 7:54 pm to
fair enough
Posted by VooDoo1321
Virginia
Member since May 2008
4362 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 7:57 pm to
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LSU's Athletic Dept they should go after the source and not the links.
you got it brutha
Posted by MondayMorningMarch
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/22/09 at 9:56 pm to
The 1st amendment>LSU athletics department. Mr AD, please don't make me pick sides on this one.

I pledge my allegience here, first:

I pledge my allegience here, second:


This decision is binding.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4406 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 10:04 pm to
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The 1st amendment>LSU athletics department.


This is not a free speech issue. It is a copyright infringement issue. I am actually surprised that LSU has not shut down radio stations streaming their broadcast of LSU events, since they compete with GZ broadcasts and deprive the university of some level of revenue that way.

Posted by MondayMorningMarch
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/22/09 at 10:28 pm to
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This is not a free speech issue. It is a copyright infringement issue. I am actually surprised that LSU has not shut down radio stations streaming their broadcast of LSU events, since they compete with GZ broadcasts and deprive the university of some level of revenue that way.


Suppose someone in the stands does a live podcast. Does LSU have the right to quash a link to TD to said podcast? Nope. I agree that LSU can limit the rights to a self-originated broadcast, but they're cutting off their own nose to save face and it's not in their best interest to do so.

I will not be sending in a check to the alumni fund this year unless the athletic department changes their stance, but they will be receiving a letter from me explaining why I am declining to give them my annual contribution. Yes, I am being petty, but it's my right and my money.



PS: I am a published songwriter and am all-too wary of 1st amendment rights and copyright laws.
This post was edited on 2/22/09 at 10:34 pm
Posted by Todd515151
Shreveport, LA
Member since Dec 2004
715 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 10:35 pm to
Thanks for the explanation Chicken. It's a lot easier to swallow knowing we can link the opponent's stream.
Posted by MondayMorningMarch
Pumping Sunshine. She's cute!
Member since Dec 2006
18728 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 10:40 pm to
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Thanks for the explanation Chicken. It's a lot easier to swallow knowing we can link the opponent's stream.


And that's the easiest solution but I'd rather hear Jim moaning and groaning while we're kicking arse!

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