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re: Redundant.. Givens is terrible

Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70516 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:03 pm to
So how would you judge it? Please use a standardized method and not double standards.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:04 pm to
“Players have to be developed.”


Thats coaching not talent
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20140 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:19 pm to
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You are comparing 5th year Seniors to 18-19 year olds…
the "youth" excuse doesn't work in basketball
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
850 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:35 pm to
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Sears had 6 TO, Bailey had 4, and Givens had ZERO handling the ball. Who do you want bringing the ball up every time and playing PG?


Givens hasn’t been good, but he protected the ball better than Sears and Bailey last night. Givens got lucky a couple of times, but he was still better. He even shot better and played more aggressively. He may not continue to play like that, but if he could, it would allow Sears to play shooting guard.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34557 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:51 pm to
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Anyone who thinks we have talent is sorely mistaken. No one on this roster outside of Cam Carter is SEC talent. Our guards are TERRIBLE. The fact Dji plays shows mid major eye for talent. Robert Miller can’t play either. Fountain .. goodness he’s regressed. Sears = turnover king. Mike Miller backup spot minutes at best. Givens .. .boy is he slow and not confident and can’t score to boot. V Miller? Maybe one day.


Robert Miller is completely lost.
They need vyc Miller back to have a chance on offense.

This roster just isn't very good without ward and Reed
They have no bigs that can score.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70516 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:57 pm to
What’s crazy is we all thought Miller would be that athletic, physical guy inside. He really does look lost but is a highly ranked guy so I went view his HS games and he mostly floated around the perimeter so he just isn’t the type of player we thought
Posted by robertgamb
Member since Jan 2015
1128 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:16 pm to
Every player Mcloser gets regressed that's because he doesn't have a clue on how to coach and develop players!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70516 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:17 pm to
100% correct, he doesn’t know what his players or teams are. This has been the case every season he’s been here.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13195 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 4:48 pm to
Who did the rankings? Were they wrong? Did the player go to camps, play AAU, etc? Late bloomer? Early bloomer? What the competition? And what’s kind of Dog is in their heart? Work ethic? So many variables to just say a number means he should be better than someone else.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13195 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 4:50 pm to
Players also have to work too and take in the lessons.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70516 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:05 pm to
3 rosters of players now, none of them work hard?
Posted by VL Lsutiger
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
3399 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:12 pm to
The offense mcmahon runs doesn't help either....lot of dribbling around premeiter wait for something to develop then when it doesn't it's helter skelter leading to turnovers
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70516 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:19 pm to
Agree, that’s our biggest issue on offense
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13195 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:35 pm to
Didn’t say they don’t. It’s a 2 way street. Teacher teacher student take the knowledge and work to get better.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70516 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:42 pm to
The though line for all the bad results isn’t the 3 rosters worth of players. Most of these guys have been very good under other coaches. You can’t keep blaming everyone else forever.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 6:44 pm
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13195 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:59 pm to
I’m not going to pretend I know how to coach a team. In Oxford I can’t say how many times players picking up their dribbles then look for someone to move to them. It was infuriating. There’s plenty of blame.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34557 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

What’s crazy is we all thought Miller would be that athletic, physical guy inside. He really does look lost but is a highly ranked guy so I went view his HS games and he mostly floated around the perimeter so he just isn’t the type of player we thought


He isn't physical at all and looks like a baby deer.

Will need time to develop. Chest at least looks like a sec player. Good sub at the very least. This roster just isn't it.
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