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re: Recruiting Myth: O is bringing in recruits like never before

Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:44 pm to
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our OL was mediocre but our DL was putrid.


Our recruiting in the trenches certainly left much to be desired. Unfortunately, Orgeron hasn’t exactly changed that. He still can’t lock down a true OT and he seems to be missing on elite DL.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:46 pm to
This years class average is the same as the 2014 class. Just slightly lower than 2016.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:47 pm to
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you should want to see how many left when he was hired.


How many?
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:02 pm to
There were more LB’s than kickers. That was an exaggeration

Spring Football 2017 we only had one Scholarship MLB available in Devin White as the other kid was out with a shoulder injury. Two true freshmen arrived that summer and both played quite a bit due to the lack of depth
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:06 pm to
I guess it’s a good thing we don’t play games in the spring.
Posted by Emergent C Steve
Death Valley
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:07 pm to
I agree to an extent. Miles always got high rated receivers, offensive and defensive backs to get his recruiting rankings while not doing that well filling needs on the two lines.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14457 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:09 pm to
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In Miles' last 3 years, he finished #2 (2014), #5 (2015), and #2 (2016).

2014 Average: .9125
2015: .8991
2016: .9135

2014 and 2016 had 26 recruits before the 25 player cap. You can backfill which is why Bama has 28 spots this year and will have a larger total point margin over the rest. Also due to the rankings of their recruits course.

2019: Currently .9118 - Most remaining targets are higher so likely we finish higher.

2014 was a very good class with guys like Fournette and Adams, but 3 of our highest ranked recruits didn't pan out (Garrett, Quinn and Valentine). D. Williams, Chark, Gage and others made a good class of mid level recruits that performed well.

2015 had studs Guice, Tolliver, Jackson and Key, but top recruits #2 Tyron Johnson, #3 Maea Teuhema and #8 Okeke were all disappointments.

2016 was a very solid class top to bottom. A good combination of studs and solid contributors. White, Greedy, Lawrence, Alexander, Cush, Fulton, Divinity, Logan, Sullivan and others. Savion was lost due to mary jane.

2017 contributors: Stevens, Chaisson, Deculus, Delpit, Shelvin, Phillips, Harris, Charles, Vincent, Taylor, Queen, Ferrell, Jefferson and others. Another very solid class despite a #7 ranking.

2018 will need another year or two to see how productive, but so far: Marshall, Joseph, Chase, Hines, Baskerville and Lewis have contributed as FR.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 10:16 pm
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:18 pm to
Or expect to win national championships with two freshmen as our only backups at MLB
Posted by GreyBear
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:18 pm to
In Les’s last 3 years he did not use these high recruiting classes to even come close to winning the SEC W
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22164 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:20 pm to
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expect to win national championships


beating Troy and State would have been a good start.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261600 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:29 pm to
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2019: Currently .9118 - Most remaining targets are higher so likely we finish higher.


Should finish with a higher avg than 2016.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:31 pm to
We need to close out with two of the three DL on our board.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14457 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:33 pm to
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We need to close out with two of the three DL on our board.

Could happen since we have the final OV with Ish, Moore and Young this weekend.
Posted by NFLU7
Houston, Tx
Member since Jan 2016
1255 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:35 pm to
0 has failed to recruit a position of need depth wise for the 2nd year in a row now. Hopefully signing day can change some things.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22164 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:39 pm to
Yep. Would have been nice to get Parker too, but doesn’t look like that will happen. It’s kind of frustrating to not grab a true tackle after the problems we had at that position this year.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24557 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:43 pm to
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and the people claiming Miles last few classes were high level are absolutely correct. All 3 of his last classes are ranked higher than any of 0s classes that’s just a fact.

0regeron did inherit a heavily talented roster that’s also a fact. Can you prove the things you’re saying? Every bit of data says exactly the opposite. Do you have any real evidence of your position or is it just a fan driven narrative?


Not the person you are replying to but I just wanted to drop some information provided by an outside source. This tweet was made before last season and is from April 2018.

Shea Dixon
Verified account @Sheadixon
quote:


Shea Dixon Retweeted Shea Dixon

In this story, numbers on each recruiting class. One that stings? The 2015 class, where 39% of the signees have already transferred or been dismissed.

From the 2014-2016 classes, only 32 signees (44%) remain on the team right now.


24/7's Shea Dixon on LSU's 2014-2016 classes



2014 class lost a 5-star in Clifton Garrett and five 4-stars. Was it still the 2nd best class in the nation?

2015 class lost two 5-stars - Tyron Johnso and Maea Teuhema and four 4-stars. Was it still the 5th best class in the nation?

Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14457 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:49 pm to
JUCO likely for Parker
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:56 pm to
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This is so much bull shite.


Which part



All of it.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22164 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:04 pm to
For as much as people loved to talk about Miles recruiting guards and converting them to tackle, Orgeron is having trouble recruiting elite tackles. They don’t exactly grow on trees.
Posted by DesenselessPlayer
Member since Oct 2018
299 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:05 pm to
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So, why shouldn't people be happy again?


Who’s not happy about the recruiting? I think OP is just pointing out that it’s really no better than what Les was doing. We’ve still failed to sign a dominant OT.
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