re: Really think about Les Miles. And how amazing LSU won despite him.

I talked to several former players that actually were starters at their positions for multiple seasons and they all told me that he was constantly meddling with the offense and would change the offensive game plan on the day of the game.

Also, one of them told me that Les and Jimbo about got in a fist fight in practice and had to be separated because Les was constantly changing things.

He was good at putting together great teams especially defenses he recruited out of this world and the silly complainers on this board tried to ruin his recruiting with just a little help he would of got over the bama hump LA, did make sabin !

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would've.

The "' 've " is a contraction for have which is a verb. Of is not a verb.

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He was a protoypical CEO head coach. We knew it when he was here. He was dependent on his assistants for on field success. He could recruit the living room like nobody's business. Boiling it down to instate kids "wanting to be a Tiger" is disingenuous or ignorance. He played a major role in procuring the talent we had in his era. He was a master motivator as well. That can be huge in a locker room. He builds a culture well. Not without warts but overall pretty impressive. Point is, you aren't as successful as he was here for as long as he was by not being good. Plenty of "smarter" coaches would die for his career.

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These revisionist history post are just flat out comical. Les needed to go but at the end of his tenure LSU was still winning as they were 9-3, 8-5, and 10-3 the previous three seasons. It wasn't always pretty but it was effective and LSU offenses under Les are still in the Top 10 offenses in LSU history. Les led LSU to a long and sustained peak for 10-11 years where they were a Top 5-10 team in the NCAA. Plus all coaches get carried by the talent they have, you don't think those yearly Top 3 recruiting classes haven't helped Alabama and Georgia?

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There was a time when I was undecided.
I couldn’t figure out whether Les Miles was the luckiest doofus in CFB . . .
. . . or whether he was craftiest football coach LSU has ever had.
Now I still can’t claim to have it all figured out, but I think I may have latched on to a few things:

1) -- Les Miles loved him some LSU.

2) -- There was a time when Les Miles thought that coaching football at LSU was just about the most fun he could have with his clothes on.

3) -- Les Miles loved his players. His players (mostly) loved him back, and once they bought in, they would (generally) run through walls for the guy.

Those who did not buy in would (generally): A) transfer out, or B) do something stupid enough to get dismissed.

4) -- Les Miles loved LSU fans. He loved their passion for the team. He was not bothered by vociferous expressions of frustration. He welcomed it, in fact, because it meant that the fans were paying attention.

You see . . .

5) -- Les Miles was an amateur psychologist of high gifts. His entire public persona -- his tiny hat, his grass-eating, his vague, near-incomprehensible coach-speak and non sequiturs, and everything else that made the media call him “quirky” -- all of it was conscious, all of it was deliberate, and all of it was very, VERY carefully crafted.

You see . . .

6) -- Miles was a highly accomplished troll. In fact, Les Miles elevated trolling to a high and holy art.

7) -- Miles thought that trolling the media (local and national) was the second-most fun he could have with his clothes on.

Remember that the proof of any troll’s craftsmanship is that the trollees do not realize that they are being trolled -- and in this case, all they saw and heard (and reported on) was the “quirkiness”.

8) -- Miles may have had fun with his trolling, but it also had a serious, well-considered purpose: Les Miles was actively and deliberately creating opportunities for observers to underestimate him, and to underestimate the team.

This had three effects:

A) -- it lowered fan expectations, which made the fans happy when the team exceeded them.

B) -- it lowered media expectations, which made pundits -- local and national -- more likely to ascribe LSU wins to luck & deception, rather than to the expertise of the position coaches.

C) -- it was intended to sow seeds of uncertainty in opposing coaching staffs (although this last effect had a tendency to diminish as the years (and seasons) would accrete).

Every season, we saw things that were deemed incomprehensible, and that caused Chernobyl-like meltdowns here.

Yes, he was a dinosaur, and had to go.

Yes, I would have been OK if his replacement had been Bugs Bunny.

Nevertheless, at the time, I came down more on the “crafty” side than the “doofus” side, until the revelation of his (again, incomprehensible) extracurricular activities -- which demonstrated that he was undoubtably a moron, too.

[quote]5) -- Les Miles was an amateur psychologist of high gifts. His entire public persona -- his tiny hat, his grass-eating, his vague, near-incomprehensible coach-speak and non sequiturs, and everything else that made the media call him “quirky” -- all of it was conscious, all of it was deliberate, and all of it was very, VERY carefully crafted.

As I alluded to earlier, i've heard this suggested and even stated strongly as you have....all due respect....I don't buy it. I've seen him in situations behind the wall where he didn't have to play this game and he was basically the same.

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what a shite show that was. You really think Les would have learned from the ole miss game the year prior. My goodness

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It was honestly worse than I remembered from being in the stadium. The 2010 Tennessee game was the only sporting event I've ever watched where I was legitimately pissed off after winning.

Yes he has a good overall record and a natty in 2007, but I refuse to believe that a competent head coach can botch that situation so badly, much less a potential HOF worthy candidate. So many poor decisions and frickups in 35 seconds of gametime, only to confuse your opponent so thoroughly that you somehow pull the W straight out of your arse. Thankfully T-Bob was the only one thinking that day to save ole Lester.

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He really really was a poor poor coach.

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Ok keep telling yourself this.

After 12 years in charge of anything your record is what you are.

He didn't put pussy LSU defenses on the field !

He called every fake kick and recruiter every All American. Twice the coach of Anyone since.