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re: Real question: Who deserves credit for 2019

Posted on 10/3/21 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by SA4LSU
AZ
Member since Sep 2005
4065 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 7:55 pm to
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JOE BURROW, period.


This.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 7:55 pm to
You’re taking this pretty hard man. Yikes.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65988 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 7:57 pm to
Burrow, Ensminger, Aranda and some Brady
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24273 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 7:58 pm to
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O deserves credit for staying out of the coaches way

A lot of coaches can't even do that and he had issues with that himself in the past and at LSU, so I'll give him some credit there. We happened to have coaches good enough that year that if you let them do their thing combined with the talent that we recruited,a great result was possible. That's not the case anymore though.
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
1796 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 7:58 pm to
Its getting goddamn ridiculous but I am cool.Im just trying to understand how all these horrible people produced incredibly successful people. I wouldnt call myself an O believer but what kinda coach wants to work at a place you can get fired 2 years afyer winning a natty. Ask Auburn. Ask Tennessee.
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
1796 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:00 pm to
My rant is over. Enjoy your nutria sandwiches.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2297 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:01 pm to
O on deserves much of the credit for 2019, hired Brady, recruited Burrow, Chase, Helairie etc., got Alleva to open the checkbook to keep Aranda. He also deserves most if not all of the credit for the recent crash. Coaching replacements that suck, an O line that sucks, recent compliance issues that are really hurting. O’s success seems to have mirrored his marriage. Good marriage, great success. Divorce and total lacks of focus running a program. I said after the UCLA game this will be a slow death that I don’t see a solution to reverse it except starting over with a new head coach.
This post was edited on 10/3/21 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
6715 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:02 pm to
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Bill Busch

I think people forget that Burrow coming here probably never would have happened if not for Busch.

quote:

Orgeron credited LSU safeties coach Bill Busch for his role in reeling in Burrow. Busch was not only Burrow’s lead recruiter for the Tigers, but he was also a former defensive quality control assistant at Ohio State. Busch’s relationship with Burrow and his father, Jimmy, helped Busch sell the two on the Tigers.

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Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:02 pm to
And Busch was due to Aranda
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:14 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9348 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:22 pm to
Joe burrow and it’s not close
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
1796 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:23 pm to
Both those programs went directly into the shitter for about a decade chasing the notions of dipshites like yourself. Dipshits like yourself would have us sadled with a hugh contract with failed coaches like Herman or the exposed Fisher.
Posted by TIGERforLIFEinTX
Kingwood, TX
Member since Jul 2007
524 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:25 pm to
BDJ made it all work well! Becoming more obvious as his play this year continues to make the Bengals work well also.

Obviously we had many skilled athletes on both the offense and defense, but Joe elevated both the coaches and his teammates to achieve at a high level.

I always remember his quote about if the DB is not looking back for the ball his receiver is open and he trusted them enough to throw the ball and expect them to make the play.

So much more than just a QB. He was a generational player and I'm so happy he came to LSU! Geaux Tigers!
Posted by icoczar
birmingham
Member since Sep 2005
1021 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:35 pm to
Burrow elevated the whole team
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
964 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:47 pm to
E B O deserves the credit

EVERYONE BUT ORGERON
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4029 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:56 pm to
Well, for one, “these” players you’re talking about “were” sought after. Chase was one of the best WR’s in the nation out of high school. I would credit Burrow and Brady for the success in ‘19.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:03 pm to
quote:


Real question: Who deserves credit for 2019


It’s obvious now that Ed was just along for the ride in 2019 and had almost zero to do with the on field success of that team.

Sure, he didn’t run Aranda off before the season, he hired Brady at Ensminger’s recommendation and beat out Cincinnati for the recruitment of Joe Burrow. I’ll give him credit for those things.

But that was the extent of his contributions, proving once again that sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. It is just not something that is sustainable
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8660 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:07 pm to
It was a complete team effort. However without a few key things: Burrow, Brady, Aranda etc it would have never happened
Posted by krewerider
Member since Sep 2009
426 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:08 pm to
Burrow and Brady!
Orgeron's fingerprints are no where on 2019.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7031 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:11 pm to
2 Joes
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