re: Rate your top 5 Qb's of all-time at LSU...

1. jamarcus russell - nuff said
2. rohan davey - half of the best combo in lsu history
3. herb tyler - tee martin 2.0 if he had a team around him.
4. matt mauck - won a title


5. matt flynn - good guy but rode coat tails to a title





do you really think any of those old geezers could play the game with the athletes that get run out on the field today in the sec? if we put bert jones or some other hasbeen out there they would make jarrett lee look like john elway.

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do you really think any of those old geezers could play the game with the athletes that get run out on the field today in the sec?

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Do you really think if Bert Jones had grown up in the modern high school football environment that Flynn, Russell, Mauck, etc., developed in he would have turned out to be the same "old geezer" you think of when you remember him?

JaMarcus Russell playing highschool football in the '60s and '70s would have been a 350 pound offensive tackle with 5.3 speed. Without the workout, diet and training regimens developed in the last 30+ years, his athleticism would have been buried under layers of bulk and fat. And without the plethora of camps and clinics available today, none of them would have reached college with the skills they bring to the table today. Guys like Bert Jones, Warren Rabb, Terry Bradshaw, Archie Manning, etc., mostly played the way they did without the benefit of professional, advanced QB training until they started their college careers. Hell, Peyton probably got more coaching before his Senior year of high school than Archie had received when he was drafted.

The timeline runs both ways.

FWIW, LSU QBs that the NFL thought good enough to draft:

year /rd. /QB /LSU signifigance /record while @LSU
1948 /1 Y.A. Tittle /Cotton MVP /18-2
1973 /1 Bert Jones /All SEC, All Amer /27-8-1
2007 /1 JaMarcus Russell /Sugar MVP, ALL SEC /31-7
1960 /2 Warren Rabb /MNC, All SEC /25-7
1990 /3 Tom Hodson /SEC x2, multi. All SEC /31-15-1
2002 /4 Rohan Davey /SEC, Sugar /21-15
2001 /6 Josh Booty /All SEC /11-12
2008 /7 Matt Flynn /BCS MVP, Peach MVP /13-2
2004 /7 Matt Mauck /BCS, SEC /21-6
1971 /7 Buddy Lee /SEC /26-7
1980 /8 David Woodley /Tangerine MVP /23-13
1986 /10 Jeff Wickersham / /21-12-2

I know most of us are too young, YA would have to be someplace in the top 2.

ETD: Redundancy

Bert Jones
Tommy Hodson
Alan Risher
David Woodley
YA Tittle

A word on Bert Jones:

he was 6'3" and 210+. More than sufficient size to play in the NFL right now even without the benefit of modern training techniques. He was the MVP of the whole league in 1977 and had the strongest arm of possibly anyone who has ever played (not trying to quibble over that but there is NO question as to arm strength being sufficient for any era of ball). This is not smallish, "system" guy who would have struggled in today's game. If anything, I think he does better today with the more pass-oriented schemes.

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Matt Mauck
Matt Flynn
J Russell
Bert Jones
Tommy Hodson

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If you're going to include Mauck and Flynn, why'd you leave out Rabb?

I loved Davey. And I know that Championships aren't won only by quarterbacks. But we do understand just how important quarterbacks are in the SEC especially after last year. That's why Flynn is in there. Helped us win a championship!

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way before my time.

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Of course that is why the question is "all-time," not just what each of us remembers. I don't remember Y.A. Tittle, but he should be on the list anyway. LSU's history of great quarterbacks goes back further than the last 10 years (although we have had some really good ones in the last 10 years too).