re: rate Trent Johnson recruiting

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Trent did not have to give Storm, Bass or Delwan a scholarship but he honored them; therefore, they are technically his recruits, I give him a pass for his 1st year.

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bass is the only one he recruited which is looking pretty bad....storm and delwan had already signed LOI and he chose to honor them....a decision that as a new coach coming into a new environment and well behind in recruiting was a pretty easy one for him to make....

also, while you're at it, don't forget Harris was in that class and had already signed before TJ got here....but by your philosophy, go ahead and give that a fail too since he had to dismiss him

Trent's only knock coming into LSU was his recruting. and after 2 full years of his players, it's looking to be true. But, you can continue to spin my post however you like.

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Trent did not have to give Storm, Bass or Delwan a scholarship but he honored them

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Trent gave a scholly to Bass. He "honored" the scholarships to Warren, Graham, and Harris.

I don't see how anyone can conclude anything in general about Trent's recruiting this year.

The grade should be INC.

Turner is a win. Derenbecker is a win. When you think of White on the plane of a JUCO, he's actually been pretty good. I consider him a win.

I'll grant you that Bass is a fail, and Ludwig maybe approaching that category, but outside of the players I mentioned above, I don't see how you can draw any conclusions about any other player on the roster.

Stringer- INC
Courtney- INC
Hamilton- INC
O'Bryant- INC

Don't include Graham, Harris, KC Ross Miller, or Warren, though. That's ridiculous.

The grade has to be INC.

Dotson is another who was highly thought of coming out of high school who basically has done nothing and he has been here 2 years.

Basically a failure. Unable to get a couple of decent players after winning the SEC in Year 1 = F/D -

He is going to be unemployed after next year if something does not drastically change

Get your facts straight before you chime in on recruiting. Thanks.

White wasn't JUCO, he played in the SEC before transfering. I am tired hearing that this team is young and can't be successful because of it. The 2006 team has nothing but underclassmen. Freshmen-Tyrus Thomas, Chris Johnson, Magnum Rolle, Garrett Temple, Ben Voogd, Tasmin Mitchell. Sophomore-Glen Davis. If you have talent you can be successful, young or not.

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I am tired hearing that this team is young and can't be successful because of it. The 2006 team has nothing but underclassmen. Freshmen-Tyrus Thomas, Chris Johnson, Magnum Rolle, Garrett Temple, Ben Voogd, Tasmin Mitchell. Sophomore-Glen Davis. If you have talent you can be successful, young or not.

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It isn't an excuse. It is a reason. Magnum Rolle and Chris Johnson hardly played. Tyrus Thomas and Temple were redshirt freshman so they both had a year of being on the team before being thrown into playing. It helps that Darrel Mitchell was a very good SENIOR point guard. And Ben Voogd? haha him averaging 1.1 pts a game that year and having just as many turnover as assists really helped.

That year our starters were:
G- Mitchell - Sr.
G- Temple - RSFr
F- Thomas - RSFr
F- Davis - Soph
F- Mitchell - Fr.

Had a Junior in Darnell Lazare coming off the bench as the 6th man too who played a solid role.

This year:
G- Stringer -Fr
G- Dotson - Soph
G- Turner - Fr
F- Derenbecker - Fr.
F- Green, Warren, White (been with the team 1 year) - all Juniors.

If you want to compare to the 06 team it may look a lot alike but the key peices of that team were there for a year or more before they made the run and one of the top 2 players on that team was a senior point guard.

Well he grabbed the only big recruit over the last three years out of LA (Derenbecker).

I am sure it would be nice if he had guys like Stromile Swift, Brandon Bass, Glenn Davis, Tasmin Mitchell, DJ Augustine, or Greg Monroe to actually recruit out of Louisiana. He also isn't from the area so he needs to build relationships in the southeast to land big talents.