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Question For Those Who Watched The Game On TV: ESPN
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:03 am
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:03 am
Before I get blasted for asking this, please keep in mind I do NOT watch ESPN outside of game broadcasts, nor do I listen to the announcers during any LSU game, no matter what channel. I always mute my TV. A practice I started in 2003.
As I stated in my "know your place thread", the sooner people realize ESPN is not LSU's friend, the happier they will be.
So, with this in mind, I have some questions about the coverage of LSU during the game. I want to know if these things were true. Again, I'm not whining, I do not want to be blasted, I just want to know if these things really happened.
1) I read earlier in the week there was a "spreadsheet" ESPN put together of all the LSU "problems". Is this true? If so, what was detailed and was anything false?
2) Did ESPN at any point make a reference to our historical regular season and point it out to the viewing audience? If so, how did they do it? Was it just verbal, or was there a chart with the schedule listing the teams we beat and their accomplishments? For example, LSU beat the Rose Bowl Champ, Orange Bowl Champ, etc...
3) Were they really "disrespectful" of our players and program during portions of the game? I've had several people tell me this. A few examples were supplied but I don't remember them, mostly because I generally laugh at people who get upset over ESPN talking bad about LSU. I just laugh and remind them that ESPN is not in the business of catering to the BR market. Of course they are going to try and humiliate our team, players, etc, like they've done so many times before. For example, the Tony Cornholer thread yesterday cracked me up.
4) Did they happen to cover the penalties that weren't called? For example, I saw several blatant holds that sprung some big plays. On TR's longest run (before the TD late) there was a blatant hold everyone in the world saw that sprung the play. This isn't a big deal, just curious.
5) What, IYO, was the overall coverage like? If you weren't an LSU fan, was it bearable? Or was it as obvious as everyone has told me that ESPN was clearly rooting for Bama from the start (which is what I was told....but again....this was by dozens of LSU homers).
Again, I can't stress enough: I was at the game. Even if we won, I did not have my DVR set. Did not care and would not watch the game again unless COX sports had it. I'm just curious to see if all the crap I've been reading and have heard was true.
Thank you for your time and consideration!
As I stated in my "know your place thread", the sooner people realize ESPN is not LSU's friend, the happier they will be.
So, with this in mind, I have some questions about the coverage of LSU during the game. I want to know if these things were true. Again, I'm not whining, I do not want to be blasted, I just want to know if these things really happened.
1) I read earlier in the week there was a "spreadsheet" ESPN put together of all the LSU "problems". Is this true? If so, what was detailed and was anything false?
2) Did ESPN at any point make a reference to our historical regular season and point it out to the viewing audience? If so, how did they do it? Was it just verbal, or was there a chart with the schedule listing the teams we beat and their accomplishments? For example, LSU beat the Rose Bowl Champ, Orange Bowl Champ, etc...
3) Were they really "disrespectful" of our players and program during portions of the game? I've had several people tell me this. A few examples were supplied but I don't remember them, mostly because I generally laugh at people who get upset over ESPN talking bad about LSU. I just laugh and remind them that ESPN is not in the business of catering to the BR market. Of course they are going to try and humiliate our team, players, etc, like they've done so many times before. For example, the Tony Cornholer thread yesterday cracked me up.
4) Did they happen to cover the penalties that weren't called? For example, I saw several blatant holds that sprung some big plays. On TR's longest run (before the TD late) there was a blatant hold everyone in the world saw that sprung the play. This isn't a big deal, just curious.
5) What, IYO, was the overall coverage like? If you weren't an LSU fan, was it bearable? Or was it as obvious as everyone has told me that ESPN was clearly rooting for Bama from the start (which is what I was told....but again....this was by dozens of LSU homers).
Again, I can't stress enough: I was at the game. Even if we won, I did not have my DVR set. Did not care and would not watch the game again unless COX sports had it. I'm just curious to see if all the crap I've been reading and have heard was true.
Thank you for your time and consideration!
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Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:06 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Just watch the damn broadcast. You don't want to hear the garbage from ESPN but you want to hear everyone's opinions about it? That's dumb.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:08 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Of course they are going to try and humiliate our team, players, etc, like they've done so many times before.
When have they tried to humiliate our team or players in the past, please?
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:11 am to EZE Tiger Fan
The game was horrible to watch but that had nothing to do with ESPN.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:14 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Believe me, they didn't say anything more embarrrassing than our head coach saying he didn't want to put in the QB who won our 1st 8 games because he was afraid Alabama would hurt him.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:16 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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1) I read earlier in the week there was a "spreadsheet" ESPN put together of all the LSU "problems". Is this true? If so, what was detailed and was anything false?
I don;t recall this, though I could have missed it.
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2) Did ESPN at any point make a reference to our historical regular season and point it out to the viewing audience? If so, how did they do it? Was it just verbal, or was there a chart with the schedule listing the teams we beat and their accomplishments? For example, LSU beat the Rose Bowl Champ, Orange Bowl Champ, etc...
I'm quite certain Musberger made a point pregame to mention the historic nature of LSU's season. Don;t recall a graphic, though.
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3) Were they really "disrespectful" of our players and program during portions of the game? I've had several people tell me this. A few examples were supplied but I don't remember them, mostly because I generally laugh at people who get upset over ESPN talking bad about LSU. I just laugh and remind them that ESPN is not in the business of catering to the BR market. Of course they are going to try and humiliate our team, players, etc, like they've done so many times before. For example, the Tony Cornholer thread yesterday cracked me up.
Toward the end, yeah... Sure, LSU didn't show up and played VERY poorly but they sort of made it seem like LSU was some lucky team to have made it there. It became a bit of a joke.
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4) Did they happen to cover the penalties that weren't called? For example, I saw several blatant holds that sprung some big plays. On TR's longest run (before the TD late) there was a blatant hold everyone in the world saw that sprung the play. This isn't a big deal, just curious.
No.
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5) What, IYO, was the overall coverage like? If you weren't an LSU fan, was it bearable? Or was it as obvious as everyone has told me that ESPN was clearly rooting for Bama from the start (which is what I was told....but again....this was by dozens of LSU homers).
Honestly I didn't get that. What I got was that when it became apparent LSU didn't come to play, both Herbie and Musberger jumped squarely on BAMA and rode them until the final gun.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:16 am to wasteland
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Just watch the damn broadcast
Not my style, but thanks anyway.
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You don't want to hear the garbage from ESPN but you want to hear everyone's opinions about it? That's dumb
Thanks for your reply.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:20 am to EZE Tiger Fan
all i know is the broadcast was very pro-bama, but how could it not be? jordanson took us past the 50 once.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:21 am to GeauxTigerTM
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GeauxTigerTM
Thank you for the responses.
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I don;t recall this, though I could have missed it.
Cool. I've read more than one reference to it on here and was worried. National perception driven by these dolts means a lot. More than people realize. Last thing we needed was them highlighting it.
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I'm quite certain Musberger made a point pregame to mention the historic nature of LSU's season. Don;t recall a graphic, though.
This doesn't suprise me. Just a quick verbal mention and moved on. Nice. I know the reason behind that, though. Had they done this for LSU, they then would have been expected to show Bama's route to the game. That's been beat to death though. Can't say I'm surprised. LOL
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Toward the end, yeah... Sure, LSU didn't show up and played VERY poorly but they sort of made it seem like LSU was some lucky team to have made it there. It became a bit of a joke.
My wife, who could give a shite about football or ESPN said this when she had the game on at home. But she wasn't the only one. Literally dozens of LSU fans said "I see why you mute the TV. Never again".
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No.
That doesn't shock me either. CBS does the same thing.
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Honestly I didn't get that. What I got was that when it became apparent LSU didn't come to play, both Herbie and Musberger jumped squarely on BAMA and rode them until the final gun.
Good. That is more believable anyway. That is a normal pattern for all sports casters during any game.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:25 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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5) What, IYO, was the overall coverage like? If you weren't an LSU fan, was it bearable? Or was it as obvious as everyone has told me that ESPN was clearly rooting for Bama from the start (which is what I was told....but again....this was by dozens of LSU homers).
If you take a look at my user name you will know I have a severe distaste for all things Gump. That being said, it wasn't biased. It was very fair. I understand why an LSU might think so, but those thoughts are due to the poor play of the team rather than the coverage.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:30 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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When have they tried to humiliate our team or players in the past, please?
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:32 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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My wife, who could give a shite about football or ESPN said this when she had the game on at home. But she wasn't the only one. Literally dozens of LSU fans said "I see why you mute the TV. Never again".
So you don't listen to the national commentators, preferring to listen to the LSU homer commentators, but your wife does listen to the ESPN guys?
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:32 am to EZE Tiger Fan
I thought the broadcast was as good as any other. Seems most fans of every school get angry and critical if an announcer/analyst says anything that isn't a supreme compliment to their school. This generally is followed with comments that he is an idiot and hates their school. If he picks their team next week, he's a genius.
The only thing that is perhaps more predictable is when the fans of the losing team refer to missed holding calls. I'm not ragging you; it's on every team's message board when a team loses. It's just an easy excuse. Bama fans used it on Ford's run in overtime in November, so I knew we had to find one or two big ones in the latest game.
I do watch ESPN if it pertains to college football. I may not agree with all of the analysts, but I love college football.
The only thing that is perhaps more predictable is when the fans of the losing team refer to missed holding calls. I'm not ragging you; it's on every team's message board when a team loses. It's just an easy excuse. Bama fans used it on Ford's run in overtime in November, so I knew we had to find one or two big ones in the latest game.
I do watch ESPN if it pertains to college football. I may not agree with all of the analysts, but I love college football.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:32 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Cool. I've read more than one reference to it on here and was worried. National perception driven by these dolts means a lot. More than people realize. Last thing we needed was them highlighting it.
Yeah...as I recall they really didn't have a graphic highlighting either team's road to the BCSNCG. I think Musberger simply said it in passing pregame while talking to Herbie about how if LSU won here, they'd have to be considered to have had one of the greatest season's in history.
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My wife, who could give a shite about football or ESPN said this when she had the game on at home. But she wasn't the only one. Literally dozens of LSU fans said "I see why you mute the TV. Never again".
I hate to use the word "disrespectful" because it's so overused, but the snide comments toward the end ti ring like that. You'd have thought LSU was some shitty program rather than a great program that had a historic season that was shitting the bed in the final game.
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That doesn't shock me either. CBS does the same thing.
To be honest, I don't recall them going to the replay to highlight any non play. Only things rewatched tended to be great plays or questionable plays...sideline or catches.
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That is a normal pattern for all sports casters during any game.
Yeah...I got the impression they were just riding the winning horse. They have been just as likely to have jumped on LSU had BAMA showed up like that. However, I think it likely they'd have been a bit more respectful towards BAMA with a guy on the sidelines they think so highly of.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:34 am to EZE Tiger Fan
They did say that LSU was the greatest team ever to gain only 92 yds, 5 1st downs and only pass the 50 once in a BCSNCG. I thought that was nice. 
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:42 am to GonePecan
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When have they tried to humiliate our team or players in the past, please?
Good lord. That has been covered here dozens of times, with many examples provided. Most recently was the fact that we "lost" the game of the century (based on what I read here).
You could go all the way back to 2003 for examples like this.
Tell you what, just bc I'm bored till 10AM this morning, I will tell you what caused me to quit watching ESPN outside of game broadcasts.
Great example of attempting to humiliate our team and players:
In 2003, leading up to the BCSNC, they were pimping the "No matter what happens with LSU/OU, USC is already the champion". You know it, and I know it.
There was a "special" two days before the LSU/OU game where ESPN had "Big Shitty" Shelby Smith (I nicknamed her this) interviewing our players at a practice. I will never forget this, and this was the defining moment for me....
She puts a microphone in front of Michael Clayton and asks him point blank "How does it feel as an LSU player to know that, no matter what happens here on January 4th, that there is a team in Los Angeles that has already won what many consider to be the real National Championship".
No, I'm not making this shite up. The look on Clayton's face, as you can imagine was "WTF". Clayton, who was a GREAT spokesperson for LSU at the time was literally speechless. You could tell he did not know how to react to this blatant form of disrespect to what the team had accomplished. No questions about his year, LSU's tough schedule, beating UGA twice...NOTHING.
As Clayton stared blankly into the camera stunned, she mentioned that LSU wasn't favored to beat OU, even though OU, many thought (including herself) shouldn't have been in the game...again her exact words. Basically "Frick you kid. Even if you win, it won't mean a damn thing and we will see to it. How does it feel?". Hey, that sounds like 11/5/11 doesn't it? LOL
Happy now, or do you need more? Never mind. I don't have time to give you more. I spent too long on this one.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 9:44 am to northalabamacracker
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So you don't listen to the national commentators
Correct
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preferring to listen to the LSU homer commentators
Incorrect. There is usually a delay. I just mute the TV or put music on.
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but your wife does listen to the ESPN guys
Again, I was at the game. She was at home taking care of kids, so she had the TV on so she could hear what was going on.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:56 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Funny, Alabama fans this week were talking about how ESPN disrespected them because Chizik & Kelly wore yellow ties and Musburger, Herbstreit & Corso wore purple ties.
ESPN doesn't do things based on bias near as much as people think.
That said, once they get an idea for a story, they will stick to it. I don't specifically remember the Clayton interview mentioned above, but I do remember a 5-minute story about OU's punt returner, who was the #2 punt returner in the country and would give OU a significant advantage. Only at the end of the story was there any mention that Skyer Green was #1 in the country.
I think the same kind of groupthink happened with the match up this year. Paul Finebaum complains that voters in the South chose Griffin for Heisman over Richardson because of a media wave in Griffin's favor that voters didn't want to be left out. It's easy to show that ESPN helped create the same type of media wave in favor of Alabama being in the BCSNCG--just look at the crawl going on during the Bedlam Beatdown.
Oh well. Any praising of Alabama during the game was pretty well expected and deserved based on how the game was playing out.
GEAUX TIGERS
ESPN doesn't do things based on bias near as much as people think.
That said, once they get an idea for a story, they will stick to it. I don't specifically remember the Clayton interview mentioned above, but I do remember a 5-minute story about OU's punt returner, who was the #2 punt returner in the country and would give OU a significant advantage. Only at the end of the story was there any mention that Skyer Green was #1 in the country.
I think the same kind of groupthink happened with the match up this year. Paul Finebaum complains that voters in the South chose Griffin for Heisman over Richardson because of a media wave in Griffin's favor that voters didn't want to be left out. It's easy to show that ESPN helped create the same type of media wave in favor of Alabama being in the BCSNCG--just look at the crawl going on during the Bedlam Beatdown.
Oh well. Any praising of Alabama during the game was pretty well expected and deserved based on how the game was playing out.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:59 am to EZE Tiger Fan
They did a list of "distractions" just like every other broadcast, shady's, krags, etc. Nothing bad. Musburger did mock us crossing the 50 in the 4th qtr, but I thought it was appropriate as it was completely embarrassing that a 13-0 team couldn't get past mid-field. We sucked worse than Herby and Musburger that night.
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:11 am to tigerpimpbot
We lost in a really bad way. We gave everyone plenty of ammo to come after us with that historic loss. You can point fingers all you want and it won't do any good. We earned everything we got and are going to get. Believe me - this isn't just going to die. I hope Tiger Nation is prepared to hear about this at the beginning of next season - cuz that is what is going to happen.
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