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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:08 am to Hoyt
absolutley -
We have a complete team - great defense, an offense that is capable of dominating teams by wearing them down, and excellent special teams!
Bama has a great defense, a very strong running game, and fair passing game. Special teams which is a component of an overall team quality is lacking -
Bama lost because they are not as complete of a team as LSU certainly is!
They will lose again this time by at least 10 points because Miles does a better job of preparing for Bowl games, because we will wear them down with our running game and play action, because we have better special teams that will help with field position and taking advantage of that aspect, and because we are UNDEFEATED in BCS Bowl Games....
Bottom line - we are the better team!
We have a complete team - great defense, an offense that is capable of dominating teams by wearing them down, and excellent special teams!
Bama has a great defense, a very strong running game, and fair passing game. Special teams which is a component of an overall team quality is lacking -
Bama lost because they are not as complete of a team as LSU certainly is!
They will lose again this time by at least 10 points because Miles does a better job of preparing for Bowl games, because we will wear them down with our running game and play action, because we have better special teams that will help with field position and taking advantage of that aspect, and because we are UNDEFEATED in BCS Bowl Games....
Bottom line - we are the better team!
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:12 am to Hoyt
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Please, enlighten me
Happy to.
It is undisputable that LSU had the better team on the 5th, because LSU won. Any team that wins is always the better team that day by definition because they made the necessary plays to win the game, and the other team didn't. As an example Villanova was better the day they beat Georgetown in the 80s, despite Georgetown's vast talent.
In my opinion it is very odd to be so encouraged by a loss. My attitude would have been,"damn, we must not be as good as I thought if we can't make the plays when we need to." I just don't understand the confidence coming from losing at home.
In addition, I do believe LSU is also the better overall team, but not by a huge margin. We have a lot of stars all over the board. Various very good teams have come at us from all angles and we've answered all challenges.
Finally, in my opinion another one loss team should have been picked because it is unfair to allow a conference member a chance to claim an even bigger prize than their conference champion.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:13 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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On paper, the teams are basically even.
This wouldn't be the case if Bama had played our schedule.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:13 am to Hoyt
Please enlighten me as to how GA Southern puts up 21 pts on bama at bama?!?!
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:18 am to Hoyt
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Guys,
I'd like to begin by saying that LSU is my second favorite SEC school. I enjoy your team's playing style and think you have an excellent fanbase. However, do you guys honestly think you have the better team? I'm not really convinced either way, but the first game was only decided by a FG in OT and like it or not, a lot of folks seem to think Bama had the better team that day...Please, enlighten me
LSU absolutely has the better team. Bama will be beaten on 1/9 I have no doubt and the reason is AJ. The guy stares down is primary receiver and isn’t very accurate. JJ does the same but he has the ability to be a dual threat. You lost at HOME and couldn’t score 1 TD. After 1/9 you might as well chalk up #4 too for next year in Death Valley.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:19 am to Hoyt
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I'm not really convinced either way, but the first game was only decided by a FG in OT and like it or not, a lot of folks seem to think Bama had the better team that day...Please, enlighten me
"team" means the complete whole
my rankings of the teams that day (scale of 1-10)...
LSU
Offense - 3
Defense - 9
Special Teams - 9
Coaching - 7
Intangibles - 6 (couple of penalties, overcame strong home crowd)
Alabama
Offense - 4
Defense - 9
Special Teams - 3
Coaching - 4
Intangibles - 4
LSU 34 - Bama 24
This whole "Bama was the better team" argument reminds me of the golfer who hits it 25 yards longer than his opponent off the tee but can't chip and putt worth a damn. At the end of the match he's befuddled that the "best" golfer didn't win.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:23 am to Hoyt
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like it or not, a lot of Gumps and media trolls seem to think Bama had the better team that day.
Top to bottom, LSU has the better team....depth WITH experience. Les utilizes our depth; Nick lacks trust in his depth.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:33 am to Hoyt
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I'm not really convinced either way, but the first game was only decided by a FG in OT and like it or not, a lot of folks seem to think Bama had the better team that day...Please, enlighten me
Two words...special teams. It's funny to me how Bama and some of the media like to pretend that part of the game doesn't count. In a game like this, that's usually the deciding factor.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:37 am to Hoyt
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do you guys honestly think you have the better team?
Yes.
This will go nothing like the first game.
Watch out for JJ running the option - which seemed to have some success last game - and you will not have the benefit of shutting down Lee's passing game.
Watch out too for true freshman Kenny Hilliard. He's been getting significantly more snaps than he was in early November, and has really looked great.
LSU will have a game plan. In the last game Miles coached a very conservative game and allowed Alabama to beat themselves with mistakes and long-shot plays. Not this time. LSU will come out with a killer instinct and put the game away early taking advantage of Alabama's mistakes as they play catch up.
Don't bet against Miles when he has more than a month to prepare.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:41 am to Hoyt
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Technically, Bama went into the endzone on the pick 6, however, a self-inflicted penalty nullified the score.
Technically that self-inflicted penalty allowed the runner to get there. Otherwise he gets tackled.
BTW, you call it self-inflicted penalty, I call it being caught cheating.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:45 am to Hoyt
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We were more deserving than anyone available.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:58 am to TheDoc
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We were more deserving than anyone available
You shot that theory straight to hell.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:04 am to Hoyt
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do you guys honestly think you have the better team?
Yes. By all measures this season LSU has proved to be better.
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the first game was only decided by a FG in OT and like it or not, a lot of folks seem to think Bama had the better team that day
What's your criteria for a better team?
1. You kicked 6 field goals to LSU's 3. In fact, that proves that you were a worse team. Bama put its FG team outside their comfort zone and expected results. Better team would know when to kick and when to punt. The kicker did not fail in his usual range. Also, one of the FG attempts was blocked. Team that blocked was better than the team that attempted the FG. You could've kicked field goals from your own 20. That wouldn't count as more attempts, rather as stupidity. FG decisions weren't that blatant, but they were outside kickers range - decision was only borderline loco.
2. Coaching. Bama came into the game with apparent advantages at coaching. Bama coaching staff made mistakes in terms of punting vs FGs, trick plays etc. Bama coaching was left wanting in that game. Doesn't say better team.
3. Home field. Bama was supposed to have a huge home field advantage. Majority of the crowd were Bama fans. Despite that advantage Bama did not capitalize.
4. Revenge factor. Bama was coming off a loss to the opponent in the previous year. All stats pointed to Bama and its coach with advantage in motivation. Except for field position advantage in the first half, Bama's motivation amounted to naught.
5. Two weeks to prepare. Bama's coaching staff apparently had a decided advantage as they had two weeks to prepare. This is a myth; fans and media perpetuate it despite evidence to the contrary.
6. Coulda/woulda. Despite the call that favored LSU in Reid's interception, Bama cannot hang their hat on how things may have changed if that was a TD. If RS had not stumbled, he could have walked for a TD. If Ford wasn't that close to the line, he had scored a TD and score could've been 12-6, If RR had snagged the ball that hit his hand, LSU could've a TD. Bama didn't capitalize on its opportunities - that doesn't spell better team.
7. Referees. Conspiracy theories abound that Bama doesn't get called for various fouls. Game did not have any blatant blown calls that would make Bama a better team.
8. Score. 9-6. That should ultimately decide who was better on the field.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:08 am to Hoyt
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Technically, Bama went into the endzone on the pick 6, however, a self-inflicted penalty nullified the score.
Lot's of fail! One, he was tackled on about the four so it was not a pick six. Two, he almost certainly would have been tackled at the 20 if your guys (two of them) hadn't blocked in the back.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:09 am to Hoyt
quote:I don't remember Bama getting into the endzone on that pick. Anyone else remember that play. I know the penalty pushed it back to the LSU 35 but I thought we tackled the DB at about the 10.
Technically, Bama went into the endzone on the pick 6, however, a self-inflicted penalty nullified the score.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:17 am to bendellee
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It was admitted by our coaches that our offensive game plan was wrong last time--they'll fix that.
I think this is the key to an LSU victory. I think Bama outcoached LSU last time. I know the conventional wisdom is the opposite, but it was clear to me that Bama had the better game plan. I think Les fixes this and LSU's superior talent beats down Bama. It'll still be close; Bama will still "win" the statistics battle; but LSU probably wins the game.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:18 am to Hoyt
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I'd like to begin by saying that LSU is my second favorite SEC school.
translation: I come in peace, or at least want to give the impression I do. Please don't charge me and my post with your purple 'n' gold guns blazing.
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I enjoy your team's playing style and think you have an excellent fanbase.
translation: I absolutely despise your team and think your fanbase is a bunch of degenerates; but I hope by saying the opposite you might actually read my post without the urge to beat me to a pulp upon sight with cajun invective.
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However, do you guys honestly think you have the better team?
There, I pitched my question; I had to come over here and poke a stick in your beehive. I couldn't control this impulse, for I really think my Bama team is far superior and I can't stand that nobody in the Tiger Nation agrees.
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I'm not really convinced either way, but the first game was only decided by a FG in OT and like it or not, a lot of folks seem to think Bama had the better team that day...Please, enlighten me
translation: Please assuage my continual butthurt. I've been singing to a Crimson choir since our November loss, and I can't stand it any longer. Please, Tiger fans -- any tiger fan --please acknowledge Bama as worthy! Please!!!!!
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:23 am to Hoyt
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Bama won out... We lost to a team we were "supposed" to lose too.
Wasn't Bama Favored.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:30 am to XbengalTiger
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Technically, Bama went into the endzone on the pick 6, however, a self-inflicted penalty nullified the score.
This captures the delusional gump "LSU didn't win" attitude perfectly.
They commit a penalty that allows their guy to get close, but not in, the end zone and this is magically reimagined to claim that 6 points for them were "nullified."
Yall really are a case study in not seeing what you don't wanna see and seeing what's not there.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 10:31 am
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