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re: Pretty funny by Guilbeau
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:37 pm to OBUDan
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:37 pm to OBUDan
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If this column had been about how Miles clearly didn't play Lee because he slumps his shoulders on the sidelines and looks dejected, it would have been a 25 page hate fest on GG.
See? You clearly displayed your bias here. You do understand the term, just may not know it.
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:38 pm to ready4something
quote:Now that's just wrong. The guy hates Miles. Terrible writer on football. Pretty good during baseball and basketball.
Now he's the representative for LSU on ESPN. GTFO.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:38 pm to drexyl
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You must be seeing things that I am not. What things are you talking about?
this will involve some extreme examples but i use them just to get my point across. JJ is a horrific QB that can barely line up on the correct side of the line of scrimmage while we are guaranteed victory if JL plays 100% of the game. Miles being the head coach sees this and is at least told this by Kragthorpe et al and Miles has such a bias toward JJ that he doesn't care that he is by far the inferior qb and would rather risk an SEC and national title so his pet/best friend/favorite player ever can get the lions share of the snaps. A bit overstated but that's essentially what is being supposed and I do not agree.
Yeah, that is extreme and not sure how the hell you are taking a stance on something yourself admit is very stretched.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That Miles has a bias? I imagine MOST LSU fans, and I would guess most college football fans think there is some kind of bias.
Why?
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I don't think you understand the term bias. It doesn't always mean "pet." The article was childish as I have already stated but contains a few grains of truth.
In the context of this article, it's most certainly meant that way.
Additionally, what other bias would there be?
So, if you are saying it's not a "pet" thing, then what is the reason for Miles' bias?
If you want to say he's biased toward mobile QBs, then why didn't we play Perrilloux over Russell and Flynn, who were superior players? Why recruit Zach Mettenberger?
If you want to say he's biased toward black QBs, then why didn't he play RP over Flynn? Why even recruit a white one?
Unless, you are saying he's "biased" from watching the two, side-by-side, daily for four years now and believing one may be better than the other? Is that what you mean by bias?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:41 pm to OBUDan
so JJ is better side by side for 4 years but just plays like shite in games?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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See? You clearly displayed your bias here. You do understand the term, just may not know it.
That statement was a random hypothetical, bias was no way involved.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
To simplify it: JJ is not a good QB; JL is a good QB. JL gives us the best chance at victory. Miles sees this and doesn't care. Kragthorpe and the other coaches tell miles this and he doesn't care. Miles (due to his bias) would rather lose a championship with JJ than win one with JL.
You don't see this being suggested anywhere on this board?
You don't see this being suggested anywhere on this board?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:42 pm to Maximus
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so JJ is better side by side for 4 years but just plays like shite in games?
Which games has he played like shite in this year?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:43 pm to AlxTgr
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Rightfully so, because that would be fricking stupid.
As is this!
How can you not fricking see jpw fricking stupid this article is?
Since you keep proposing, "Tell me what's wrong."
I ask you, tell me what's right about this article. Go ahead and spell it out.
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:45 pm to OBUDan
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If you want to say he's biased toward black QBs, then why didn't he play RP over Flynn? Why even recruit a white one?
You are one miserable fricker to even bring that up.
Who didn't think this would come up from you? quote:
Unless, you are saying he's "biased" from watching the two, side-by-side, daily for four years now and believing one may be better than the other? Is that what you mean by bias?
I assume most of us believe Miles prefers the mobile QB who he can work around his pocket passing. Who knows? Miles spoke in glowing terms of the guy last year when he was horrible, and never did that with Lee. He has his reasons, and not all of us know. It's fairly obvious that publicly he treats JJ different than he does Lee.
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:45 pm to OBUDan
The people in this thread claiming bias doesn't exist among coaches probably were the same people crying about Stud playing T-Bob at guard last year.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:46 pm to drexyl
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To simplify it: JJ is not a good QB; JL is a good QB. JL gives us the best chance at victory. Miles sees this and doesn't care. Kragthorpe and the other coaches tell miles this and he doesn't care. Miles (due to his bias) would rather lose a championship with JJ than win one with JL.
You don't see this being suggested anywhere on this board?
The extremes? No more than the reverse. I suggest you are reading what you choose to read and ignoring the other.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:50 pm to OBUDan
quote:I could copy and paste the whole thing. What good would that do? Your mind is mad up. You won't concede a single point. I guess it's just fun to see how far you'll stretch your credibility on this one issue.
tell me what's right about this article. Go ahead and spell it out.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:51 pm to AlxTgr
Ill bump it.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:51 pm to drexyl
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Miles (due to his bias) would rather lose a championship with JJ than win one with JL.
I haven't seen anyone say that. I think he feels he can win it with either, and for whatever reason, prefers to win it with JJ. We've seen what we can do with Lee. Let's just hope Les is right. We shall see.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
JJ > Lee for Bama game. Lee was about most efficient QB in SEC until Bama. Given how erratic QB play has been for last few years, is the article really that outrageous?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:52 pm to AlxTgr
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I could copy and paste the whole thing. What good would that do? Your mind is mad up. You won't concede a single point. I guess it's just fun to see how far you'll stretch your credibility on this one issue.
Dan also claims he has no bias. Imagine that.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You are one miserable fricker to even bring that up. Go frick yourself race baiter. Who didn't think this would come up from you?
It was a plausible example. I could have just as easily said, "If he preferred white QBs...".. race wasn't the issue, but the point is beyond you, I see.
The fact that you have started name calling early and often, is quite telling.
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I assume most of us believe Miles prefers the mobile QB who he can work around his pocket passing. Who knows?
Then why play Russell exclusively? Flynn was more mobile. Why wasn't Flynn used like JJ throughout the time Russell started? Why recruit Mettenberger, who is probably the least mobile guy on the team?
You are just speaking out of your arse, unsurprisingly.
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Miles spoke in glowing terms of the guy last year when he was horrible, and never did that with Lee. He has his reasons, and not all of us know. It's fairly obvious that publicly he treats JJ different than he does Lee.
What? Miles has said repeatedly, "I have two great QBs." He's uber complimentary of Lee at every chance he gets. He always talks about his toughness and grit and that he had no doubts about him in big games because he knows Jarrett and he's seen that in him.
This is really just a case of you developing an opinion completely based on fiction, then looking for every little nugget you can to support it. You are interpreting everything to make your opinion right.
My opinion on JJ is this: he's an average player. So is Jarrett Lee. JJ took the starting job from Lee in 09 after Lee got hurt. He has successively beat him in 3 QB battles, for now two different OCs.
Miles watches these guys practice, workout, and play every day. He has more information available to him than any of us who simply read press clippings, watch 20 second practice clips and then take in gamedays. He's proven to be a smart, effective leader and coach and a good decision maker.
So, if it's his opinion that Jefferson is the player more equipped for leading this team and winning, I see no reason why I should disagree.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:55 pm to OBUDan
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I ask you, tell me what's right about this article. Go ahead and spell it out.
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Jefferson did play well.
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he managed to elude the rush, roll right and hit wide receiver Jarvis Landry for a 20-yard gain to the Western Kentucky 17 anyway.
That is a perfect example of Jefferson's strength
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Miles was proven right in the Alabama game. He does not win that game without Jefferson. Jefferson's play proved that a two-quarterback system that features quarterbacks of significantly different skill sets like LSU's can truly help a team
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Dan also claims he has no bias. Imagine that.
Roger made up something and tacked it to my name. Imagine that.
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