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re: Pour play calling was not the problem.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:50 pm to 40 Rouge
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:50 pm to 40 Rouge
You made my point for me. The o-line couldn't protect long enough for the play to develop. But you can't just stop calling PA passes. No more than you can quit running the ball.
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:50 pm to TheLibrary
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If you can't see beyond that you prolly need to take another dose of your meds.
Pretty sure we saw fine. We couldn't generate a rushing attack, but you think continually calling PA wasn't a problem.
But by all means, tell everyone to take more meds. That'll definitely persuade them to your line of thinking.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:51 pm to TheLibrary
Not apples to apples. Miles run game scared opponents to where th PA would have worked.
Our run game this year scared no one! PA is pointless!
Our run game this year scared no one! PA is pointless!
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:51 pm to TheLibrary
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the play calling was what everyone asked for during the Miles era. LSU just didn't have the players to execute the plays efficiently.
If you're calling plays that the players can't execute efficiently, then that's terrible play calling and it most certainly is a problem.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:54 pm to nvasil1
I don't give two shites if people think the way I think. I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm stating facts.
1. The play calling was leaps and bounds better than pre Orgeron days.
2. Matt Canada's offense might have seemed better, but was only better because he had better players at skill positions... And it isn't debatable.
1. The play calling was leaps and bounds better than pre Orgeron days.
2. Matt Canada's offense might have seemed better, but was only better because he had better players at skill positions... And it isn't debatable.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:55 pm to TheLibrary
These miserable fricks don’t wanna hear anything other than “muh O sucks” or “muh Ensminger sucks” or other intellectual shortcuts.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:55 pm to TheLibrary
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But you can't just stop calling PA passes.
We used it too much. Way too much.
That’s poor play calling. Same as Les not using it as much as he should have.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:56 pm to TheLibrary
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The o-line couldn't protect long enough for the play to develop.
Exactly. So why keep calling PA, which takes even longer to develop?
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But you can't just stop calling PA passes.
Why not?
Hey, we'll catch 'em this time, guys! I swear!
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:57 pm to TheLibrary
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I'm stating opinions
FIFY
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:00 pm to Spec1
First, I simply used PA as an example. There were lots of times where it was a drop back pass on first down, or obvious running downs.
Second, the PA pass doesn't need a productive run game to be successful. It is used to cause the DB's to hesitate. The same as a deep pass doesn't have to be completed to make the defense aware that you'll go deep.
Second, the PA pass doesn't need a productive run game to be successful. It is used to cause the DB's to hesitate. The same as a deep pass doesn't have to be completed to make the defense aware that you'll go deep.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:00 pm to TheLibrary
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Matt Canada's offense might have seemed better, but was only better because he had better players at skill positions... And it isn't debatable.
Canada had one better WR, but we had a Biletnkoff finalist this year along with 2 blue chip freshman along with a year older Sullivan, Anderson and Dillon. It could be argued that the receiver Corp was better this year and was before the season started. RBs were obviously better last year, QB is basically a wash or better this year and TE is a wash.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:00 pm to Gray Tiger
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1. You injected reason into this board.
No he didn’t.
He’s basically saying nothing more than “if the players would have succeeded in their attempt at every play, it would have been effective”. Well no shite! You can say the exact same thing about every fricking offense.
The problem is, when our offensive coaches saw that our players were not making the plays, they did nothing to fix the issue. They just continued to run the same shite. It’s like they had the attitude of “they will get it eventually”. This can not be any more evident than in the fact that they CONTINUED TO LET GILES FIELD KICKS.
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2. You went against the lynch mob mentality.
There is no “lynch mob mentality” here. There are only people who see the issues with play calling and people who don’t.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:01 pm to TheLibrary
All of your points are correct. However, poor play calling absolutely was an issue & only made the other deficiencies more noticeable.
A good coach would identify the weaknesses of his team, AND adjust team dynamics & play calling accordingly to suit their strengths.
A good coach would identify the weaknesses of his team, AND adjust team dynamics & play calling accordingly to suit their strengths.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:02 pm to TheLibrary
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Second, the PA pass doesn't need a productive run game to be successful. It is used to cause the DB's to hesitate.
What?
They aren’t going to hesitate if they know you aren’t going to run or can’t run it effectively.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:02 pm to TheLibrary
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Not to say there weren't places for improvement in the play calling, but for the most part the play calling was good. It was the execution that was poor
Continuing to call play action when backed up in your own endzone was about as boneheaded as you can get.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:03 pm to Gray Tiger
That and he’s wrong
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:04 pm to TheLibrary
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. Matt Canada's offense might have seemed better, but was only better because he had better players at skill positions... And it isn't debatable.
I think you missed the 2016 season when we lost to UF and got blanked by Bama with all that talent on offense.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:05 pm to bencoleman
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Continuing to call play action when backed up in your own endzone was about as boneheaded as you can get.
I don't have as big of a problem with E as some others. But, anyone that doesn't realize this was/is a problem is kidding themselves.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:14 pm to TigerLunatik
I wish I didn't have responsibilities and the like because I would go back and watch every game again. It seemed clear to me that, as the season progressed, the play calling evolved. I can point to the read option being called more, designed QB draws, utilizing the tight end more, and more. Which is a sign of a coach understanding the weaknesses of his team
Plus I didn't say that the players need to execute every play flawlessly, but you can't possibly point to POUR play calling alone as the reason we lost 3 games.
Plus I didn't say that the players need to execute every play flawlessly, but you can't possibly point to POUR play calling alone as the reason we lost 3 games.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:15 pm to Lester Earl
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