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re: Possible Wade meeting Monday; Lipsey and Williams may be working together to oust Alleva

Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:44 pm to
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LSU already has a big problem recruiting the best students who ultimately choose to go to TX, Al, and GA schools. The drivers are lack of comparable scholarships, and "optics", one quick tour of the campus and it is obvious what takes priority.



Again. It's not the athletic department's fault that the other side is being grossly mismanaged. Why make it suffer? Ask the presidents of Bama and Clemson what 1 football national championship did for their out of state enrollment. For better or for worse, Power 5 schools in the south will always be sports driven. Embrace it and make it work for your university of take the F. King approach.
Posted by 225Tyga
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:45 pm to
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One of these is not like the others academically speaking. UA has improved, but they are still a peer institution of LSU, whereas UT and UGA are not.

Bama from an academic standpoint has been increasing it's priority on getting out of state students because it OOS tuition is much greater than instate.

LSU's strategy has been to get the TX and UF students who are academically strong but can't get into UT/A&M, and UF. It's worked, but it's not the high volume OOS students UA has gone after.


yeah like you really know of the dynamics with regards to the strategy of how LSU, let alone how OTHER SCHOOLS recruit students.. get off your high horse
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:51 pm to
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aTm could buy the LSU athletic department with their chump change if they wanted to. Never believe that LSU could out bid them on a strictly cash basis.


Again, for the slow kids, no one is disputing that. What does that get them though? There is nothing they can do ATHLETICALLY with money to outdo LSU. They already have a shiny new stadium in football. LSU is still out recruiting them. They have Blue Bell's name on the baseball stadium. LSU is still out recruiting them. Their basketball arena just received a $7 million renovation two years ago. LSU still out recruited them. Money, unless they start funneling their gagillion dollar endowment to recruits, will not help that loony fricking school rise to the top.
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:17 pm to
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There is nothing they can do ATHLETICALLY with money to outdo LSU.


All of those new and eye-popping facilities will pay off. Recruits are easily impressed by that type of bling.

The well reported big $$$$ thy are throwing at their coaching staff gives the impression of a vastly better staff. Recruits like that.

All the bucks they can and will throw into support staff, etc. will pay off.

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Their basketball arena just received a $7 million renovation two years ago. LSU still out recruited them.


If you are to believe the stories floating around college basketball, money is a huge determining factor in recruiting. How long does LSU stay in that bull ring?

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. Money, unless they start funneling their gagillion dollar endowment to recruits,


And why wouldn't they?

LSU can't go toe to toe with aTm in money ball. Its an economic fact.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:24 pm to
What hurts Aggy is that it’s in a shithole town and they had Kennedy and Sumlin. They’ve fixed the coaching part..
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:24 pm to
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All of those new and eye-popping facilities will pay off. Recruits are easily impressed by that type of bling.

The well reported big $$$$ thy are throwing at their coaching staff gives the impression of a vastly better staff. Recruits like that.

All the bucks they can and will throw into support staff, etc. will pay off.


They've had those toys for a few years now. It's not working.

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And why wouldn't they?

LSU can't go toe to toe with aTm in money ball. Its an economic fact.



They absolutely can. You're acting like A&M is going to start offering high school kids million dollar contracts.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:25 pm to
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What hurts Aggy is that it’s in a shithole town and they had Kennedy and Sumlin. They’ve fixed the coaching part..


What hurts Aggy is Aggy.
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:25 pm to
LSU has its own reputation and brand.
Kids want to play for that.
A&M can spend whatever money they want, until they become relevant in the SEC many kids will still choose LSU.
LSU doesn’t need to match A&M, just keep up with the rest of the SEC, make good hires and keep our winning average where it is now.
Football#6
Baseball#9
Basketball#13.

That’s a damn strong statement right there.
Average the rest of the SEC in the big 3 sports and see LSU is right at the top.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:27 pm to
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LSU has its own reputation and brand.
Kids want to play for that.
A&M can spend whatever money they want, until they become relevant in the SEC many kids will still choose LSU.
LSU doesn’t need to match A&M, just keep up with the rest of the SEC, make good hires and keep our winning average where it is now.
Football#6
Baseball#9
Basketball#13.

That’s a damn strong statement right there.
Average the rest of the SEC in the big 3 sports and see LSU is right at the top.


Yep. Not to mention they're not the main attraction in their own state. They'll always be UT's little brother.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:35 pm to
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LSU's strategy has been to get the TX and UF students who are academically strong but can't get into UT/A&M, and UF. It's worked, but it's not the high volume OOS students UA has gone


Those TX students are getting in-state tuition rates at Arkansas right now. OKC is the primary 2nd choice.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:38 pm to
Aggies have a very strong culture there. It’s not a fit for lots of athletes. No facility will make up for a bad cultural fit. You’re either an Aggie or you’re not and you can usually tell if someone fit there.
Posted by ibldprplgld
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:43 pm to
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yeah like you really know of the dynamics with regards to the strategy of how LSU, let alone how OTHER SCHOOLS recruit students.. get off your high horse



My best friend has been an academic recruiter for LSU for a decade now and we talk about it often because I find it fascinating.

She has been assigned the Houston, and Florida regions for college recruiting fairs and high school visits for her entire time. She's good friends with recruiters from the other SEC schools because they always end up at the same events. They openly talk about their school's recruiting strategies -- they aren't some highly guarded secrets.

Sorry you got butt hurt I called you out in the LSU BOS thread. You can log off now.
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:43 pm to
Those Yell Leaders aren’t attracting recruits either.
A&M fans are delusional thinking that somehow helps their school.
They have other practices besides that are just downright creepy.
Posted by ibldprplgld
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Those TX students are getting in-state tuition rates at Arkansas right now. OKC is the primary 2nd choice.



Yup, it's very cool to hear how other States try to entice TX and FL students. Lots of great students to be had in both States.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Alleva’s contract has about 15 months left on it, and he makes in the neighborhood of $750,000 per year. That would make a buyout worth something just south of a million dollars, which we’re told Lipsey has put together.

Let it be true, Lord. Let it be TRUE!!!!
Posted by tigerfan84
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by ElderTiger
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 3:05 pm to
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But perhaps Woodward would consider coming home if he was offered the president job.


This is laughable. In order to be considered as a university president, most schools require the president to have a PhD. Woodard has a BA in Political Science. And before you bring up Sean O’Keefe, he was the Chancellor of the Baton Rouge campus, not president of the LSU system.
Woodard will probably get his name mentioned...but only to get a contract extension and fat raise from A&M.
And probably ditto for Dan Ratokovitch !

And let me add this - with Williams and his desire for diversity and the way that LSU does things, LSU’s next AD may already be on campus...Verge Ausberry !!!!!
This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 3:07 pm to
Never mind. I’m dumb.
This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 3:11 pm to
we are not competing for the top students with Ala., Ga., Texas or TAM.
We are competing with the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, Michigan, Vandy etc and we are consistently losing to all those who are serious about these things. Texas and A&M are good schools, but they are a rung below the top schools. And LSU is well below them.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 3:22 pm to
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Are you serious? Skip is so much more of a leader, a visionary, and a do-what-s'-best-for-LSU guy that Alleva could ever be capable of doing


He had the foresight to tell a guy like Petrino to take a hike and hired Les. Sure we might have still won some games with Petrino, but he's fricked up every team he has coached since 2005.
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