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re: Possible theories for Harris not playing against Arkansas...

Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:03 am to
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13407 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:03 am to
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However, you are implying that his on the field work has been good. That is simply not the case.


Every position battle is relative to the candidates.
Posted by GoldenAge
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1618 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:09 am to
From what I've picked up on around campus, it is a mixture of B Harris postgame interview at Auburn where he is clearly being a smartass. Idk if he is just upset at the games ending, or if he really believes it was all the coaches fault. I watched Harris in the spring game and went to every home game this year. I think he has the more upside and skill set, but everyone brags about Jennings work ethic. He's the first one in the film room, and the last one out of it. He tries to improve, but to no avail. I love and support both QBs because they wear the P&G, but I wish we had a clear cut starter that way none of this would be happening. Fans are tearing apart two teenage kids, sending death threats and harassing messages, all because the effort they gave didn't meet expectations.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:17 am to
True, but this isn't the first time I have seen people act like Harris has a great track record and crazy Les just refuses to budge. I think an objective person knows that is not the case.

That said, I am ready for Harris. Please start him Les.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:19 am to
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B Harris postgame interview at Auburn where he is clearly being a smartass


lol wut?

the one where he said he played poorly and needs to do better?


You should be banned for bashing a player with more lies, pumper scum.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26594 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:20 am to
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Harris postgame interview at Auburn where he is clearly being a smartass
please provide evidence of this
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13407 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:22 am to
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this isn't the first time I have seen people act like Harris has a great track record and crazy Les just refuses to budge


I don't think that's the case. People are well-aware that Harris needs to improve. He needs to play in order to improve. Why put yourself in a scenario to yet again have an inexperienced QB next year because you didn't play Harris this year even when the starter wasn't getting it done?

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That said, I am ready for Harris. Please start him Les.


Okay, now I'm not sure what your point was, but
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 10:23 am
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:24 am to
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please provide evidence of this


didn't happen, the kid was living up to his performance and was very humble. That interview was the most impressive thing he's done this season.
Posted by cybertiger53
Member since Sep 2012
227 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:24 am to
#4, somewhat agree with #1 but there is no reason to not play Harris in the Ark game with Jennings having the worse game since he was named the starter. The team needed a spark and Harris may have provided that. Why didn't Miles play Harris early so to gain some experience? If Miles really believes that Jennings gives the team the best chance to win then why did he start him against Auburn? Just Les being Les. History supports this.
Posted by cybertiger53
Member since Sep 2012
227 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:30 am to
Not going to happen. Jennings will again go down firing!
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21465 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:40 am to
Two summers ago, Harris' senior yr, I was watching one of ESPN's shows on elite football camps & Harris was one of the QB's being showcased on t.v. Don't recall who the "expert" was, a former college All American QB, but he said then that Harris was "extremely raw" & would need a lot of time to be ready to run an offense in college. Said the talent was there, just not the experience required. In the talent competition, Harris came in 2-3rd to last as I recall.
Posted by cybertiger53
Member since Sep 2012
227 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:46 am to
I don't think Les has a clue to his own thinking! You watch Jennings will start against A&M. What does it matter if the team has one more loss. Look what happened against Auburn when A&M put in their other QB. Bad thing is Harris doesn't see the field enough to gain some experience at this point of the season. Should have played early. If Les doesn't change his ways then he we be in the same situation next year because Harris will be gone! Wake up Les your job may depend on it but I don't expect he will!
Posted by oldschoolgreats
Member since Nov 2012
1902 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:46 am to
this is very simple. its no. 4 by a long shot. miles believes this the best winning formula for this team. we beat ole miss and could have easily beat bama. with 1 minute left we need a play from the offense to score a td, a play from special teams on kickoff, or a play from defense to tackle someone inbounds. none of this happened and not a coaching failure by lm.

against arky, we had missed 2 field goals and missed recovered a fumble by 2 players, and fumbled the ball on best scoring drive and played w/o 2 ol. all 3 phases could have made plays that allowed us to win both games. miles is counting on us making these plays in close games. that's how he wants to play with this team. we can win this way but its a high risk scenario.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:46 am to
I guess my point was that I understand why Les stuck with Jennings. However, I feel that even those reasons have now run their course. When Jennings was winning games and making just enough plays to get us through it made sense.

Posted by cybertiger53
Member since Sep 2012
227 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:12 am to
Yes it's high risk but look what Lee did against Tenn a few years ago. I remember when Jerry Stovall was the coach and LSU beat Bama bad at their place after the game a reporter ask Bear Bryant why he changed his OB? Bear's response was "I was trying to win the dam.... game"!
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10465 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:48 am to
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I think it's a combination of 3 and 4.

This (I reckon)
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33147 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:03 pm to
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4. Miles truly believes that Jennings was his best chance to win games. Look at it this way, Jennings was QB during LSU's three game win streak and its near win against Alabama

I think this is it.

If Jennings had screwed up in the Bama game, I sincerely think we would have seen Harris start vs. Arky. I honestly believe Les thinks Jennings gives us the best chance to win, because he "screws up the least".

THIS IS NOT A WINNING PHILOSOPHY! That is Miles problem, he thrives on playing it safe and close to the vest, trying too hard to not make a mistake. He's completely lost that early roll the dice mentality- remember "let 'er rip"! from the OK State days? That doesn't exist anymore.

I'm not saying he should constantly gamble, but Mary mother of God take a few chances sometimes, I mean seriously.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted by oldschoolgreats
Member since Nov 2012
1902 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:20 pm to
I think miles will not take chances with this team. the problem is if you take a chance and it doesn't work then the game is lost. we can't come back from a bad mistake. we are then forced to take another chance and we are not equipped to do that.

les doesn't have a bad philosophy for this year's team. he should tinker around with it some but nothing major. he could use Harris like he used RP but with a few passes thrown in.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133477 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:24 pm to
A little of #1 mixed with a LOT of #4, IMO.
Posted by drdrfaulkner
Butler PA
Member since Apr 2007
757 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:07 pm to
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IDGAF if he's in the film room 24/7 if none of it is sinking in. Are grades earned by how many hours a student spends studying or how they perform on the exam. He is getting a big fat F on his exams


Just because he's in the film room 24/7 doesn't mean he is awake and/or paying attention all of the time. Or perhaps he's majoring in Football Videography (is there such a thing at LSU?). If he studies it all that much, perhaps in 15-20 years you will see his name emerge as a candidate for a coaching position somewhere. Who knows? I do say, though, that if I spent that much time in the film room, my eyes would be shot and I couldn't see the field because of the images I have stored in my memory--possibly those few instances of success I had. Seems like a player (like Mett) who works with other teammates might be more successful than one who has delusions of grandeur.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:14 pm to
Hard head.

Same thing for the NC game. When Lee started warming up, the crowed started chanting for him and Les sat him down.

And I might add the crowd yelled for Rohan in the Peach and Saban put him in in the 3rd and he ended up getting MVP.

It's ok to admit you're wrong. Les doesn't understand that.
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