re: Positigers, 10 wins does not equal improvement. This is why.

With as many people typing "this is a dumb statement" "we should ignore this" all you are doing is bumping this back to the top of the page.

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And exactly where should that be? Who decides?

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winning at least 1 SEC West title. The administration decides ultimately.
It would be 5 years without an SEC West Championship. That would be a sustained declined. ANY statistician will tell you 3-7 years worth of data is statistically relevant provided there is enough of a sample base - 13 games would be enough. With that said 5 years is sufficient and defendable in court.
then again what do I know...

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Not a lot. But we still like you. Not a lot.

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The sentiment is mutual with respect to YOU since YOU don't represent ANYONE other than YOURSELF on here and therefore, can't use WE in the manner which you used it.
Now to my point
What I do KNOW are statistics and answered your question in a very logical way without degrading a coach that has been a good overall for this program.
Do I like everything he does? No. Do I like the attention we get sometimes because of bonehead execution of plays by his players? No. Do I think he is the root of all that is wrong with all LSU athletics? No.

Here is my point just in case you jumped to the wrong conclusion... NOW this is based on facts, so you might want to read it all before you start something...
Back Ground on his coaching tenure with respect to the SEC West - which is what I was stating in my post.

2005 7-1 (1st. - tied for first with AU won tie break)
2006 6-2 (3rd - Tied for second with AU - Lost tie break) with arguably the best LSU team of all time)
2007 (6-2) (1st. with an equally great team as 2005)
2008 - 3-5 (3rd)
2009 - 5-3 (2nd)
2010 - 6-2 (3rd. Tied for second with Arky - lost tie break)

So you don't believe that 1 SEC WEST title over a 5 year period (2008-2010 seasons) doesn't represent decline in the program from 2007 (or even 2009 for that matter)?

I said give him 2 more years in my original post.
That means he needs to do what is necessary with the program to get us 1 SEC West Title in the next 2 seasons.

Hell he will have 2 Senior QB's and a potential great 1 under his wing this spring and fall ready to take over the following year if not this one.
If Crowton is the problem, then he needs to make the necessary changes. CLM is RESPONSIBLE for this program overall. That includes sustaining a winning level acceptable to the university and its alumni(LIKE ME).
I WANT him to succeed more than you know. That means LSU succeeds! So for someone to say coming in 2nd or 3rd every year over a 5 year period in the SEC West isn't a decline when compared to 2005-2007 seasons - like you are suggesting - is just plain false.
Win the SEC West 20% of the time (once in 5 years) and most fans will shut up. This means that you can't rest on what you did the first 3 seasons with a different set of coaches and players.

After 6 pages, the most obvious proof the op is completely wrong is that had he posted this same post 365 days ago, a lot of dickheads on the site would be agreeing with him. The near unanimity of ridicule being foisted upon the op shows we have improved from a year ago.

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can't use WE in the manner which you used it.

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I'm using the Royal prerogative.
You should understand because:

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That includes sustaining a winning level acceptable to the university and its alumni(LIKE ME).

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you seem to be representing all the alumni and the entire university.

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I said give him 2 more years in my original post.

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Are you? Are you the spokesperson for the university? Are you the deciding factor regarding Les Miles' continued employment?

Wow. How do you like being a miserable human being?

and LSU only played 1 of those 0-3 teams and actually beat that team plus the team that beat it. Doesn't mean your original post was any less complete bullshite

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No school has won the west more than LSU in the past 6 seasons.

No school from the west has been NR more than LSU in the past 6 years.

No school from the west has more 10 wins seasons in the last 6 years than LSU.

No school from the west has more SEC wins in the last 6 years than LSU.

No school from the west has more wins in the last 6 years than LSU.

No school from the west has a better OOC winning record than LSU.

No school from the west has more NC in the last 6 seasons than LSU.

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FAIL
You DIDN'T READ the multiple posts No COMMON CENTS and I were arguing about.




Here is what I posted a reply to, then you can decide if you want to be considered as stupid as him.

re: Positigers, 10 wins does not equal improvement. This is why. (Posted on 12/29/10 at 7:47 p.m. to EricB)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>interesting. some true, some not.
Give CLM 2 more years and see where we are for teh 5 year average. If not where we should be, fire him.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



DUMB frick POSTS:
And exactly where should that be? Who decides?
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I POST:
winning at least 1 SEC West title. The administration decides ultimately.
It would be 5 years without an SEC West Championship. That would be a sustained declined. ANY statistician will tell you 3-7 years worth of data is statistically relevant provided there is enough of a sample base - 13 games would be enough. With that said 5 years is sufficient and defendable in court.
then again what do I know...
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Dumb frick NO CENTS Posts:
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Not a lot. But we still like you. Not a lot.
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I POST:
The sentiment is mutual with respect to YOU since YOU don't represent ANYONE other than YOURSELF on here and therefore, can't use WE in the manner which you used it.
Now to my point
What I do KNOW are statistics and answered your question in a very logical way without degrading a coach that has been a good overall for this program.
Do I like everything he does? No. Do I like the attention we get sometimes because of bonehead execution of plays by his players? No. Do I think he is the root of all that is wrong with all LSU athletics? No.

Here is my point just in case you jumped to the wrong conclusion... NOW this is based on facts, so you might want to read it all before you start something...
Back Ground on his coaching tenure with respect to the SEC West - which is what I was stating in my post.

2005 7-1 (1st. - tied for first with AU won tie break)
2006 6-2 (3rd - Tied for second with AU - Lost tie break) with arguably the best LSU team of all time)
2007 (6-2) (1st. with an equally great team as 2005)
2008 - 3-5 (3rd)
2009 - 5-3 (2nd)
2010 - 6-2 (3rd. Tied for second with Arky - lost tie break)

So you don't believe that 1 SEC WEST title over a 5 year period (2008-2010 seasons) doesn't represent decline in the program from 2007 (or even 2009 for that matter)?

I said give him 2 more years in my original post. That means he needs to do what is necessary with the program to get us 1 SEC West Title in the next 2 seasons.

Hell he will have 2 Senior QB's and a potential great 1 under his wing this spring and fall ready to take over the following year if not this one.
If Crowton is the problem, then he needs to make the necessary changes. CLM is RESPONSIBLE for this program overall. That includes sustaining a winning level acceptable to the university and its alumni(LIKE ME).
I WANT him to succeed more than you know. That means LSU succeeds! So for someone to say coming in 2nd or 3rd every year over a 5 year period in the SEC West isn't a decline when compared to 2005-2007 seasons - like you are suggesting - is just plain false.
Win the SEC West 20% of the time (once in 5 years) and most fans will shut up. This means that you can't rest on what you did the first 3 seasons with a different set of coaches and players.

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So NOW, do you agree that an average finish in the SEC West of 2.5 and NOT winning a single SEC West in that same period is a decline over the first 3 seasons?
Les won with better assistant coaches and coached-up players his first 3 seasons. matt Flynn was a product of Jimbo Fisher. It is really simple. Crowton has not developed any players since he has been there. They appear to not gain any football IQ under a self proclaimed "Wizard".
If CLM doesn't win (or tie) the SEC west in the next 2 years and he is still too stubborn to get rid of Crowton. They both need to be fired!

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We'll see. If the SEC doesn't do what I insist it must do, then im completely right in saying that LSU's record is due to an overall "weaker" schedule and not an actual improved team. I mean, if two of these SEC teams that lost bowl games were two teams that LSU DID NOT PLAY, well, frick, who cares (and let me gloss over the fact that I'm basing my 'analysis' on bowl performances of a handful of teams, of which only two actually played against LSU [and let me conveniently forget that these two that played against LSU are playing each other in a bowl]. Not that I ever said there was NO improvement, because there obviously was some improvement. So as you can see, I've already contradicted myself. The question is, is the level of improvement acceptable to fans, or am I just a giant attention-seeking douchebag??? You be the judge.

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