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re: Point of view after rewatching the game...(LONG)

Posted on 9/6/10 at 7:30 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49626 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 7:30 am to
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He didn't chase the QB out of bounds or anything--I think he was still in bounds when he hit the QB (who had just stepped out of bounds).

I agree - this was a very marginal call. When I saw it replayed, I still would not have thrown a flag. The QB was still heading upfield for more yardage. He did not take a lateral path to go out of bounds to avoid a hit. The hit was technically outside the line, but only by a tenth of a second. You cannot adjust your route in the last tenth of a second.

And - does anyone think that Alabama would be flagged on a similar play - ever???
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87616 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 7:45 am to
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Ridley ran hard all night, but he has to hold on to the ball. His ability to cut and drive through his runs is something that LSU hasn't had in a while. He reads holes well and hits them at full speed. If he can keep the ball, he could put up big numbers this year.


Amazing how many people did not see this and immedietly call for Ford. Yes, I get the fumbling, but to say his running was a disappointment just shows they don't even watch.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 7:53 am to
Fan emotion has clouded realty. I, too, saw a lot of huge positives.

These kids will re-group, stay focused, and crush Vandy on Saturday.

LSU is going to have a good season. Book it.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23406 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 7:54 am to
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Fan emotion has clouded realty. I, too, saw a lot of huge positives.

These kids will re-group, stay focused, and crush Vandy on Saturday.

LSU is going to have a good season. Book it.
+1. I still believe we'll have a good year.
Posted by TreyE663
Walker
Member since Nov 2007
954 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:06 am to
I think alot of the bad talk about the defense is a little unfair. They were on the fireld "most" of the game, I believe they were worn out. The offense did not put together a "solid" drive all night. The first score was a slant to Sheppard but I believe we started with a short field. Then a long bomb to Randle, a long run by Sheppard, a safety, and a punt return by PP. Doesnt qualify as solid drives IMHO.

With all that being said JJ did manage the game leaps and bounds better than last year. I agree give it a couple more weeks and lets see what happens.
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 8:07 am
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:09 am to
Points 2, 4 and 5: spot on. I'm especially bummed about Blackwell's injury. Really bad news for us.
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4259 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:11 am to
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I appreciate your optimism and I try to share it as well. But, the problem that I have is that this is the same thing we were saying last year. After the Washington game, we were looking for positives and expecting to improve. We never did. It isn't that I don't have faith in the players. I have lost faith in the coaches because I see the same thing year after year, whether we are in the first game, or the 13th.


Bingo. If anything, the teams seem to get worse as the season goes on because other teams adjust to what few new wrinkles that LSU has.

Doesnt matter; Series to Series, Quarter to Quarter, Game to Game, Year to Year...The team simply does not improve or adjust well enough to be meet its potential. They will win games because they have alot of talent on the team.

They would be serious National Championship contenders if they were able to make adjustments better and execute accordingly. It pains me to say it but its true.
Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
2417 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:14 am to
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We sorely miss Ryan Baker.



How do we know this? Has he ever started a game?

Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:20 am to
A similar "positive take" could be written after pretty much any game, win or lose. A UNC fan could certainly come up with an even more positive take about their performance.

The problem is that Saturday night was more of the same for LSU. "If this" and "if that", but what it all adds up to is that LSU once again played sloppily and down to its competition. LSU coaches once again were outcoached in the 2nd half. Once again we were outgained. Again we failed to control a game despite clearly having better players.

I don't dispute that we have a lot of talent and could do good things this year. I wasn't even disappointed Saturday night, and I saw quite a few things to be happy about.

What I dispute is the idea that this team under Les Miles will EVER be the kind of team that most of us want it to be (organized, able to control a game when it has better players than the other team, makes use of the full 60 minutes, has a good gameplan going in and makes better adjustments for 2nd half, plays up to its ability instead of down to its opponent, etc). It's just not in his DNA, and his DNA is what defines the team. It took a few years, but it's fully in place now.

We might win 10 games this year. We also might lose 5. There's only one sure thing: it won't be pretty.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:41 am to
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7732 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:42 am to
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Jj's biggest problem is his inability to make mid range throws, which is why we can't complete 3rd and 8+.

Don't totally agree ... those two streak passes to Mitch Joseph were perfectly placed. I think the coaches just need to figure out what routes JJ throws the best and design the game plan around what he does well.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56590 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:50 am to
Joseph appears to be a good 2nd TE...
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:52 am to
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if there is no hold while Ridley marches into the end zone,if Jefferson doesn't take the intentional grounding out of field goal range,

There was none that I could see, either live at the game , on the tron, or in the replays at home. Pretty much a phantom call, not that T-Bob made much of a block, but no hold there. The Jefferson play was deja-vu all over again. He took so many sacks in that manner a year ago. And yes, statistically grounding counts as a sack. A devastating one in this case. I agree there were some positive signs, lots of youngsters played(and made youngster-type mistakes- see Fruge and Loston), RS was decently involved and JJ was fairly accurate. The Oline looked decent though WB's loss was evident. The primary coaching mistake I saw was allowing the intensity to drop off at half-time.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
13073 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 8:57 am to
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not that T-Bob made much of a block


He pancaked the guy.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
13073 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:00 am to
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The first score was a slant to Sheppard but I believe we started with a short field. Then a long bomb to Randle, a long run by Sheppard, a safety, and a punt return by PP. Doesnt qualify as solid drives IMHO.


Well, hopefully the coaching staff is telling Peterson, Randle, and Shep not to make any more of those big play TDs, so we can get some long, sustained drives.
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 9:01 am
Posted by TreyE663
Walker
Member since Nov 2007
954 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:08 am to
Not saying that..... What Im saying is the offense really did nothing...There was no consistency... If we can beat on big plays then lets do it all year, but you know as well as I do thats not going to happen! I just was expecting to see a little more solid play from the offense, but hell from the looks of it I expected too much!
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:10 am to
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not that T-Bob made much of a block
He pancaked the guy.

Just meant that the collision didn't appear to be so destructive that the official might assume there had to be a hold. The INC guy went down without much of a fight. Either TBob is very strong or that guy was playing puny. Either way, that was no call for a holding penalty. With that play and minus JJ's foolish sack, the Tigers would have rushed for over two-hundred yards.
Posted by Killer Tiger
Member since Oct 2008
88 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 9:19 am to
i just hate how when this coaching staff gets a lead of about 14 pts or so they just sit on it and get extremely conservative with the play calling even if being aggressive is how we got the lead in the first place

also im worried that our coaching staff doesnt show that they have much confidence in our QBs ability to perform and its holing back the offense and JJs confidence/progression b/c he is so scared to screw up something

that being said a win is a win lets move on the the next one!
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:03 pm to
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What Im saying is the offense really did nothing...

This is incorrect. 2nd half drives of @40 and 60yds ended in fumbles and penalty calls.
I know what the stats say, but drives were actually longer.
There were 13pts left on the field in 2nd half imo.
This is first game contact for these guys this season and they'll remember and learn.
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