re: Players parents should sue the officials who have forced the use of face shields

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You have it arse-backwards, as usual

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No, I really don’t.

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Where is the study that proves putting player's heads in a plastic bubble is a safe practice?

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That’s actually a fair point. But is the precedented standard that the burden of safety must always be studied and proven before any uniform changes are allowed? My guess is no.

My guess is also that this is being monitored and if enough players throughout the country complain, then they’ll lose the shields. Didn’t we have some super tech implemented last year that measures all kinds of stuff? Surely oxygen levels is one of the metrics they monitor, no? But more importantly, can’t we all just be honest and agree that nobody knows what the frick to do? That this is an unprecedented situation, but everybody is doing their absolute best to figure shite out on the fly? Without the threat of lawsuits? If they do nothing, one side wants to sue because they’re not doing enough? Try out a face shield for a few days, got another side wanting to sue because they’re doing the wrong thing? frick man, we’re all in this together, perhaps a little latitude and benefit of the doubt is warranted?

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The study showing permanent brain damage from heat stroke is NOT irrelevant.

And where is the study that says it is SAFE to put ballplayer's heads in a plastic bubble?

There are already LSU player complaints published nationally.

You are more worried about winning a keyboard argument than you are about player safety. GFY

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Well if you hadn't tried to play lawyer and limited your thread topic to the facemasks posing some issues related to heat exhaustion, then a lot more people would be agreeing with you. They probably wouldn't want to read another thread on a topic tjht has been discussed plenty, but a lot of people don't like the face shields.

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Well if you hadn't tried to play lawyer and limited your thread topic to the facemasks posing some issues related to heat exhaustion, then a lot more people would be agreeing with you. They probably wouldn't want to read another thread on a topic tjht has been discussed plenty, but a lot of people don't like the face shields.

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Thank you. I probably should have just said something like that. I’m down with discussing the effectiveness and viability of face shields and whether or not the risk is worth the reward. It’s the absolutes in which he speaks that always pisses everybody off. He doesn’t allow for any nuance and isn’t trying to foster any actual discussion. He just wants people to agree with him.

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This isn't a minor 'uniform change'.

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agreed

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This a major change that affects a player's ability to breathe in and out under extreme physical exertion.

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Maybe. I’ve never worn a shield, but did go through 2 a days in the August Louisiana heat. And in a time when even water breaks weren’t even often given. I’ve tried to imagine what a shield would feel like, and I think I would have been able to breathe fine. But I was a 185 pound high schooler, not a 300+ pound collegiate lineman. I will obviously defer to the players wearing them. But is everyone complaining or just a handful? Is it 5 out of 100 or 50? Have they given them enough time to adjust to them? I have no idea.

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It is a horrible idea that should be shitcanned immediately.

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This is why people hate you. You may, in fact, be right. It may wind up proving to be a terrible idea. But you are not in a position to speak so authoritatively. None of us are. And I will allow that those who actually are are treading in these uncharted waters with the best intentions, not the worst.

Let me ask you 2 simple yes/no questions:

1) Do you think Jack Marucci and company are monitoring blood/oxygen levels and comparing them with the face shields vs. the “normal” baseline?

2) If you said “yes” to # 1, do you think they are dismissing lower blood/oxygen levels that may lead to poor outcomes (i.e. heat stroke)?

You're an idiot

Why would it be made available to you?

Geaux play in the street

Since the mortality rate from Covid for people under the age of 70 is less than the flu..this whole shutdown thing is ridiculous. But thinking young athletes are in any danger from Covid is even more ridiculous.

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But I am coming from a place where I see that people are trying this to actually HELP keep the players as safe as possible.

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And as I stated in the OP, the efforts to force the wearing of a plastic enclosure at the LSU level is well-intentioned.

But the face-shield campaign is a half-baked notion that will be a bonanza for whatever company cuts a deal with the NCAA, high schools, and kiddie leagues to supply the suffocating device.

Amazing to me that any true fan of the game can blow off the comments of the LSU players who have actually used it, and hate it. They say they can't breathe.

THAT alone would be enough to scrap the idea immediately, IMO. The negative effects of COVID among the young is nearly zero. A plastic mask won't change that number at all. It will be about zero, with or without the damn things.

The only benefit I see is for the companies who stand to make millions of dollars supplying these things to the 5 million Americans who play organized football every year.