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re: Pitching staff injuries

Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:19 pm to
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Do you think I'm going to post about a different team? I'm an lsu fan. Dont really care about how the other schools are faring tbh.



Please stop being a fan you race baiting pussy
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:41 pm to
Again, I'll be at traction in two hours.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:43 pm to
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Do you think I'm going to post about a different team? I'm an lsu fan. Dont really care about how the other schools are faring tbh.



Well, when you make a claim that LSU pitchers suffer arm injuries at a higher rate than other programs, the rate of injuries of other teams is pretty relevant. SO I guess this is you admitting you don't have any idea what you're talking about. Thanks for clearing that up
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:45 pm to
You guys are missing the point. I am concerned for the student athletes
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:47 pm to
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You guys are missing the point.

no one is missing the point. you are just completely out of touch with reality
quote:

I am concerned for the student athletes

noted. Then stop blaming Mainieri and Dunn and talking out of your arse to justify yourself. Nothing Mainieri and Dunn are doing is causing arm injuries. It's fine to be concerned with the rise in arm injuries, but you don't seem too concerned with the root of why they are and instead start blaming all the wrong people. That's why you have been getting destroyed ITT
Posted by weadjust
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:04 pm to
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Well, when you make a claim that LSU pitchers suffer arm injuries at a higher rate than other programs, the rate of injuries of other teams is pretty relevant.


State had 8-9 pitchers out for the season due to injury in 2016. Mangum and Gordon both position players who hadn't pitched since high school were pitching in SEC games.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:05 pm to
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Nothing Mainieri and Dunn are doing is causing arm injuries.


correct. I suspect it is the workload they are asking of their players that contribute to the problem. also factor in a lack of recruiting by the hc. this thread is full of the homer brigade blaming kids and their tball coaches for pitching too much before they reach campus.

I don't really buy that as a total answer.

Does mega pitching exacerbate the problem? surely.

did players in the past pitch more than kids of this generation? yes. I'm not talking about 20 years ago, there has obviously been an uptick recently. I'm talking about 80 years ago.

What has changed since then? almost everything. Maybe one of these millionaire coaches should think outside of the box and instead of groupthink, form a theory and test it.

im not a person who just reads two or three popular opinions of the time and agree blindly.

Again, people used to think the world was flat.

I have NEVER blamed dunn for anything, and im sure yall have scarfed down my entire 8 year post history by now and know the truth of that.

I have been anti menaerei for years. Same as I was anti chavis before that became popular. Read that far back, I used to get roasted for saying beckwith should start over welter.

I was the first person really making that point, and it took a few months to catch on. Given, I know a lot more about football than baseball, but seriously, there is a problem and if no one is going to sound the alarm, for the kids sake, I'll do it.

I dont even let my kid pitch. at all. Its because no one has a good answer on this exact subject.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:06 pm to
yall keep bringing up state, but it hurts your argument seriously. they had an ex lsu guy running thier program, literally coaching and preparing the practice and scrimmage loads of these EXACT KIDS

Eta: i may be off on the time by a fwe months, cannizaro may not not been handling that. Still though, even still, it would be an outlier. Wow, you can point to one or two schools out of 200 that have had a worse case of this than lsu. That means we have problems.

why wait until now to be so passionate about it? Hello, jaden hill is a RED FLAG
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 5:10 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Still though, even still, it would be an outlier.
How do you know this since you admittedly don’t follow other programs?
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:15 pm to
i mean cmon dude i watch all of the sec games that i can, and have for the past 20 years

eta: the sec games lsu plays in. i was a teenager in the 90s. of course i follow lsu baseball

yall think im trolling but i really just didnt feel like articulating my point. but dont confuse a lack of concern for internet grammer for me just starting mess.

This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 5:18 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:16 pm to
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yall keep bringing up state, but it hurts your argument seriously. they had an ex lsu guy running thier program,


State's pitching injury problem actually started in 2015 with pitching coach Wes Johnson. AC inherited a depleted pitching staff with a bunch of guys rehabbing from Tommy John surgery.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:19 pm to
You’re either really stupid or trolling. Take your pick.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:20 pm to
Sooooo. Does Garza throw anyone out tonight?
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:21 pm to
was smart enough to get into lsu after 10th grade tho
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:29 pm to
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Again, people used to think the world was flat.


Some people still do

And they’re just as ignorant to physics as you are to baseball
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:33 pm to
Jesus Christ you’re still continuing on with all this nonsense?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71225 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:37 pm to
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State had 8-9 pitchers out for the season due to injury in 2016. Mangum and Gordon both position players who hadn't pitched since high school were pitching in SEC games.

It was 2017 but yeah I already brought them up ITT. BigEd didn’t seem to care, shocker
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:37 pm to
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they had an ex lsu guy running thier program,

Nope
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:39 pm to
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was smart enough to get into lsu after 10th grade tho
quote:

grammer
But obviously not smart enough to know how to spell “grammar.”

Or was that an 11th grade course at your high school?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71225 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:41 pm to
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Read that far back, I used to get roasted for saying beckwith should start over welter.

now I know you’re full of shite
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 5:41 pm
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