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re: Perspective on players leaving for the NFL and/or not playing in the bowl game
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:20 pm to EA6B
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:20 pm to EA6B
The fan is what makes all this financial gain possible. Many forget that. If it continues on this same trajectory, things could change in the future. The NFL is already seeing a decline on part to players making ng it political.
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:22 pm to Tillmanscorner
I love DW but it doesn’t take any leap of logic to see the difference between a normal bowl and a playoff game
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:26 pm to Tillmanscorner
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So you are calling a playoff game a meaningful game worth the risk for that ring over $15m for you and your family
A once in a lifetime oppurtunity for a competitor is probably worth that risk.
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a regular bowl game where your teammates need you isn't worth that risk?
Need him for what exactly? What does LSU gain by winning or lose by losing this game? Furthermore, LSU shouldn't need Greedy to win this game.
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I love the fact that dw said he would be there with his brothers.
I do as well. I hope it doesn't cost him and that more players choose to play in the bowl games in the future.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:51 pm to TigerLunatik
My post wasnt directed at you, my bad. However, I strongly disagree. A competitor is a competitor and will be there competing with his teammates until the end. Tomorrow isn't promised for anyone. I was raised much differently. I admire the hell out of individuals like dw. High character guy. Lot of people on this site can't spell character.
As to worth the risk for a ring over a $15m payday. Yeah, sure. By God I lost $15m due to injury, but I got my ring. Ha. Think about that, honestly. It's coming too, watch. If you make the decision to take care of your family in this instance, then a nc brings you zilch...and in fact increases your odds of injury with two games. You can have the j. Russell's of the world, no thanks. Give me dw and all the other projected first rounders electing to play in meaningless games...I'll take that heart and character all day. It was simple with GW, he wanted his money and wanted it now, what's that commercial? He could not wait 30 days to get that agent advance.
As to worth the risk for a ring over a $15m payday. Yeah, sure. By God I lost $15m due to injury, but I got my ring. Ha. Think about that, honestly. It's coming too, watch. If you make the decision to take care of your family in this instance, then a nc brings you zilch...and in fact increases your odds of injury with two games. You can have the j. Russell's of the world, no thanks. Give me dw and all the other projected first rounders electing to play in meaningless games...I'll take that heart and character all day. It was simple with GW, he wanted his money and wanted it now, what's that commercial? He could not wait 30 days to get that agent advance.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:00 pm to Tillmanscorner
If a player was to skip out on the playoffs, what do you think the first question would be in an interview at the combine? "Why didn't you stay to help your team compete for a championship?" It's a business decision as well, just like the the decision to skip a bowl game that has no effect on LSU at all. It's the equivalent to a preseason game or an all-star game as far as consequences.
Now, would I prefer him to come back to help my beloved university win one more game? Hell yes. Would I prefer him to come back so I can see am elite player in the purple and gold one more time? Hell yes. But, I'm not going to criticize the guy for making a move that benefits him and doesn't hurt LSU at all.
Now, would I prefer him to come back to help my beloved university win one more game? Hell yes. Would I prefer him to come back so I can see am elite player in the purple and gold one more time? Hell yes. But, I'm not going to criticize the guy for making a move that benefits him and doesn't hurt LSU at all.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:11 pm to TigerLunatik
Strongly disagree with you. But, that's what this board is for. It isn't so much about me wanting to see him in purple and gold again, it is about quitting on your team. I wasn't raised that way. The answer to the scouts should be I quit on my team to further myself financially, whether it was to potentially finish #1 or #10. It's the same thing to the players on that team that have worked hard all year. Again, all about character and integrity. Eventually, it'll catch up with you in life. It's all good, different opinions.
Oh and doesn't hurt lsu? I don't want to name names, but we have a player or two that doesn't even attempt to turn around for the ball...that will be starting.
Oh and doesn't hurt lsu? I don't want to name names, but we have a player or two that doesn't even attempt to turn around for the ball...that will be starting.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:19 pm to Tillmanscorner
Ok and if LSU loses, what are the consequences? That's my point. There are none.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:29 pm to TigerLunatik
That really doesn't make sense. There is no financial reward or consequence to any player in ANY bowl game unless they get hurt. Again, about character, pride, integrity. We were all raised differently.
*Not trying to be ugly, it's all good. Just not everyone was raised and has the same beliefs. I think this kind of issue is one where some have very strong opinions obviously. I'd hate to be there n combat with some of these guys, leave your azz high and dry.
*Not trying to be ugly, it's all good. Just not everyone was raised and has the same beliefs. I think this kind of issue is one where some have very strong opinions obviously. I'd hate to be there n combat with some of these guys, leave your azz high and dry.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:29 pm to Buda
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. You have to leave LSU and not graduate
Thug is, NOTHING is preventing the guys who leave early for the NFL from graduating.
Lots have players have left early and still earned their degrees at some point.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:31 pm to Tillmanscorner
Sorry, I was responding to this.
Haha... should have quoted that in the first place.
If it were me, I don't know if I could sit a game like that if I wasn't hurt, but everyone is different and I get his decision.
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Oh and doesn't hurt lsu?
Haha... should have quoted that in the first place.
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Again, about character, pride, integrity. We were all raised differently.
If it were me, I don't know if I could sit a game like that if I wasn't hurt, but everyone is different and I get his decision.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:42 pm to TigerLunatik
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a regular bowl game where your teammates need you isn't worth that risk?
Need him for what exactly
I think you can make an argument that Greedy and others who won’t be on the team next year sitting out a non playoff bowl game actually is better for next years team.
More practice time and live game reps for the guys who are coming back.
That’s how you should look at the non playoff bowl games: the start of next year.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:44 pm to TigerLunatik
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If a player was to skip out on the playoffs, what do you think the first question would be in an interview at the combine? "Why didn't you stay to help your team compete for a championship
People who can’t tell the difference between the playoff games and other bowls are so stupid I’m surprised they remember to berate.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:46 pm to memphis tiger
It doesn't hurt, but I definitely understand the "he needs to play for his teammates" argument. There's certainly some merit to that position.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:49 pm to memphis tiger
I guess you are right. If lsu were playing in the playoffs, and won it, but greedy had a career ending injury, he could proudly wear his ring to work at Walmart. It would have been worth the ring. Makes sense.
Memphis I've read your melts on here. I certainly don't have you confused with a man of high character or integrity.
Memphis I've read your melts on here. I certainly don't have you confused with a man of high character or integrity.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:50 pm to Tillmanscorner
You are a fricking idiot.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:51 pm to TigerLunatik
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It doesn't hurt, but I definitely understand the "he needs to play for his teammates" argument. There's certainly some merit to that position
I’m sure you have talked to his teammates and found that they are all disappointed and disagree with his decision right?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:52 pm to memphis tiger
Yep. That's Memphis.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:56 pm to memphis tiger
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I’m sure you have talked to his teammates and found that they are all disappointed and disagree with his decision right?
Obviously not, but having been part of a lot of teams, I have a feeling they would like him to be out there and understand his decision as well. I also believe that if you asked them directly that they would support his decision no matter how they felt because that's what teammates do.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 10:28 pm to Buda
Neither 1 or 2 is similar to 3.
I am sorry you wasted your time typing all that shite out
I am sorry you wasted your time typing all that shite out
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:19 am to Paul Maul number 37
This is just idiotic. NFL people don't give 2 shites about the bowl game either way. They only care how well he can can cover NFL receivers. Dude will get paid based on where he's drafted which will be very high in the 1st round
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