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re: Per Blake Ruffino.. The basketball team gets more money than the baseball team from tv?
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:12 am to Nutriaitch
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:12 am to Nutriaitch
Yeah the school can do whatever they want but it would be ridiculous not to take care of football and hoops first when that’s your cash cow
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:16 am to nicholastiger
quote:
Yeah the school can do whatever they want but it would be ridiculous not to take care of football and hoops first when that’s your cash cow
exactly.
Basketball received over $7 million from the SEC and NCAA deals with TV and the tournament last year.
Baseball received $34 thousand.
That's $7 million LSU gets just for having a Basketball team in the SEC.
No matter how good/bad they are, LSU gets that money.
No Basketball, no $7 million.
So when it comes to splitting it up, since Basketball brings it in, they get a bigger chunk of it.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:24 am to Islandboy777
Johnson could win 10 CWS titles and yet baseball still wouldn’t pull in a third of the revenue that football and basketball bring in
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 11:27 am
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:38 am to Islandboy777
What if they did arbitrarily take money from one sport and give it to another? What would baseball fans do if they took money from that sport and gave it to soccer or women's softball. We would still be waiting for the tops of their heads to come down from altitude. And the viewership thing. You have to understand that from the standpoint of tv viewership, it is not which team the viewers are tuned in for but the overall viewership for that game.
So LSU plays Kentucky in basketball. That game will get a lot of viewers because it is Kentucky but LSU will still share in the revenue because the SEC collects and distributes the money according to conference rules. That is the number one reason to be in a powerhouse conference. You will share in the revenue no matter how bad your team plays that year.
So ask yourselves, if baseball is such a popular sport, then why doesn't it have its own revenue stream instead of being lumped in with all other sports after football and basketball? If you are a baseball fan, your anger shouldn't be directed towards basketball but rather towards the SEC and LSU administrators. And perhaps also toward wealthy boosters who give more money to the others?
So LSU plays Kentucky in basketball. That game will get a lot of viewers because it is Kentucky but LSU will still share in the revenue because the SEC collects and distributes the money according to conference rules. That is the number one reason to be in a powerhouse conference. You will share in the revenue no matter how bad your team plays that year.
So ask yourselves, if baseball is such a popular sport, then why doesn't it have its own revenue stream instead of being lumped in with all other sports after football and basketball? If you are a baseball fan, your anger shouldn't be directed towards basketball but rather towards the SEC and LSU administrators. And perhaps also toward wealthy boosters who give more money to the others?
Posted on 7/18/25 at 12:50 pm to midlandtiger
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Johnson could win 10 CWS titles and yet baseball still wouldn’t pull in a third of the revenue that football and basketball bring in
Neither sport brings in 1/10th of the revenue that football does.
but Baseball is a lot closer to Basketball in revenue at LSU than you think.
over the last 5 years Baseball is only behind Basketball by about $1.5 million total (an average of around $300K per year).
And 3 of those years, Baseball brought in more revenue than Basketball did.
But with the new ESPN contract, Basketball will start to pull away.
That new contract is a fat one that rakes in a shite-ton of money.
Which is the reason LSU will put more back into basketball than they will baseball.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 2:40 pm to Nutriaitch
quote:Please provide link or source?
And 3 of those years, Baseball brought in more revenue than Basketball did.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 3:10 pm to Tom Bronco
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And 3 of those years, Baseball brought in more revenue than Basketball did.
quote:
Please provide link or source?
LSU Athletic Revenue 2023
Baseball = $4,037,540
Basketball = $2,546,914
LSU Athletics Revenue 2022
Baseball = $3,274,712
Basketball = $2,835,211
LSU Athletics Revenue 2019
Baseball = $3,071,367
Basketball = $1,826,918
also did it in the '20-'21 revenue year, but that was skewed by Covid, so I'm not counting that one.
These are the actual numbers reported by LSU.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 7/18/25 at 3:34 pm to mdomingue
quote:
They get a percentage of the TV revenue your sport generates. Basketball generates more TV revenue than baseball does. It's not that difficult to understand.
Its the same reason USMNT makes more than the women. Its actually pretty hard for a lot of people to understand.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 3:39 pm to bayou85
quote:
Its the same reason USMNT makes more than the women.
that's actually a really good comparison.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 3:47 pm to Nutriaitch
quote:Isn’t the TV revenue split out in the reporting and not attributed to the individual sport? (I’ll check your links in a few).
These are the actual numbers reported by LSU.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:08 pm to drizztiger
quote:
Isn’t the TV revenue split out in the reporting and not attributed to the individual sport? (I’ll check your links in a few).
the new TV deal with ESPn specifically calls out SEC Basketball (how many games, what networks, what dollar amounts, etc.)
so with the new deal the money goes directly to basketball instead of into a general "SEC Distribution" fund.
which is why last year Basketball made a huge jump in revenue
LSU Athletics Revenue 2024
Basketball $10,841,075
Baseball $6,476,138
the team sure as shite wasn't improved enough to see an &8 million spike in revenue.
but the new TV deal kicked in and that money is specifically allocated now.
so while we all know that Basketball is a bigger tv draw than Baseball, it wasn't specifically spelled out in the old contracts like it is now.
The old contract said "CBS pays $X for football, ESPN pays $Y for football, then SEC Network / Streaming pays $Z for every other sporting event hosted by an SEC School"
Now that all sports are owned by ESPN, it says "ESPN Pays $X for all football , $Y for whatever number of Basketball games they agreed to on the network, and then $Z for all remaining"
Basketball going from "all remaining events" to its own entity was a massive revenue boost for the team.
so going forward, Basketball will pull away from Baseball more and more because of the money that comes in specifically earmarked for the basketball team.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:17 pm to Nutriaitch
Anytime LSU basketball gets more money than LSU baseball is a joke….a fuccking joke
Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:19 pm to H2O
And why would LSU put anything into the basketball program? Why?
Put it into the diesel engine that is the LSU baseball team.
Put it into the diesel engine that is the LSU baseball team.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:23 pm to Nutriaitch
quote:That’s what I meant. I’ve previously seen the numbers that you posted.
so while we all know that Basketball is a bigger tv draw than Baseball, it wasn't specifically spelled out in the old contracts like it is now.
They’re a bit misleading in terms of total revenue per sport, because it didn’t include the distributed TV revenue for sports such as basketball, in which most of the revenue is from the billion dollar NCAAT contract. Just showing direct sport revenue (ticket sales, etc) isn’t the big picture. LSU MBB turns a net profit of over a million every year due to the TV share. Baseball is usually in the break even net each year due to the sports lack of national appeal and large TV deal.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:35 pm to H2O
quote:Because LSU basketball is missing additional net profit opportunity by not being competitive, whereas baseball doesn’t have any room to grow for profitability and is capped until and unless the sport itself expands a national audience and attention.
And why would LSU put anything into the basketball program? Why?
There is no multi billion dollar TV deal for college baseball. There is one for basketball, which shows the sports national interest.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 11:00 pm to Nutriaitch
I appreciate you taking the time and effort to send me the links to LSU's financial statements, I can see where you got the idea that baseball had less of a loss than basketball but it is really not true. I was an accountant for thirty years and believe me when I tell you that is one of the most complicated financial statements I have ever seen. You would have to work there to fully understand it. For instance the largest revenue by far was located on a line labellled Administrative Revenue. What that is I have no idea and that is only one of a number of mysterious line items.
I found a newspaper story about the Louisiana Legislative Auditors report on LSU for 2023, Here is that link LINK
This report says that football and basketball were the only sports that made a profit that year. Baseball is not specifically mentioned but is lumped in with other sports. I suggest what they are not including under individual sports is the tv revenue which is always the largest revenue source for basketball. It must be included in on of those other revenues.
Anyway I am just worried about the whole situation when you see that the Athletic Dept. as a whole has been losing money for years now. Athletics is a business just like any other and they simply have to cut down on their expenses. They aren't like the Fed and just create money out of thin air when they need it.
I found a newspaper story about the Louisiana Legislative Auditors report on LSU for 2023, Here is that link LINK
This report says that football and basketball were the only sports that made a profit that year. Baseball is not specifically mentioned but is lumped in with other sports. I suggest what they are not including under individual sports is the tv revenue which is always the largest revenue source for basketball. It must be included in on of those other revenues.
Anyway I am just worried about the whole situation when you see that the Athletic Dept. as a whole has been losing money for years now. Athletics is a business just like any other and they simply have to cut down on their expenses. They aren't like the Fed and just create money out of thin air when they need it.
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