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re: People who hated the O hire - thoughts now?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
agree that football is about execution but there are things a coach can do to make sure execution is good.
Obviously
quote:
coming out of a timeout O
How do you know he didn't?
Apparently the other 10 players knew
quote:
the success or failure of a teams execution falls on the coaches
So O is to blame for Charks drops and Etlings overthrows vs Alabama?
There's 3-4 plays in that game that most would agree would have have hanged the outcome, that was O's fault?
What about Canada? He's the one who called those plays?
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:04 pm to siliconvalleytiger
I'll answer as I have on multiple threads with a similar theme.
Shortened version:
Mixed results
Bad 1st part of season, some explained due to injuries and new system, but mistakes around the Troy game are on the HC
Solid improvement as the season progressed
Good effort vs Bama, but same results
Good, not great bowl
1st season is a push.
I'm neither an O supporter or anti-O. I was not for the hire, but no benefit in re-hashing the process. Phase II is how the team progresses/regresses going forward. I've seen enough to be encouraged at this point, but we need to see continued movement toward a contender status. I like the emphasis on building up front. If you don't win in the trenches you won't be successful.
Shortened version:
Mixed results
Bad 1st part of season, some explained due to injuries and new system, but mistakes around the Troy game are on the HC
Solid improvement as the season progressed
Good effort vs Bama, but same results
Good, not great bowl
1st season is a push.
I'm neither an O supporter or anti-O. I was not for the hire, but no benefit in re-hashing the process. Phase II is how the team progresses/regresses going forward. I've seen enough to be encouraged at this point, but we need to see continued movement toward a contender status. I like the emphasis on building up front. If you don't win in the trenches you won't be successful.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:07 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Is it ok for me to say I hated the hire...cursed it so many ways I lost count...then we lost to Troy along with Miss ST blowout, and I went on some really hate filled rants...then we made a comeback against Auburn (who seemed to shift to neutral for whatever reason), and finished 9-3 without many quality wins, and feel kinda ambivalent? I mean...do I have to hate him or love him?
I will say that with O’s recruiting prowess along with Aranda and Canada, I’m cautiously optimistic...but that’s probably a very temporary situation. Do I think O can win with just avg or even slightly above avg coordinators? Nope
I will say that with O’s recruiting prowess along with Aranda and Canada, I’m cautiously optimistic...but that’s probably a very temporary situation. Do I think O can win with just avg or even slightly above avg coordinators? Nope
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:07 pm to R11
quote:
So O is to blame for Charks drops and Etlings overthrows vs Alabama?
There's 3-4 plays in that game that most would agree would have have hanged the outcome, that was O's fault?
What about Canada? He's the one who called those plays?
yes. bad execution falls on coaches.how do you not know this?
im done. love you
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:11 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Wow
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:12 pm to R11
quote:. My god dude. Yes coaches are to blame for lack of execution. In your world why would coaches ever be fired if it’s the players fault for failing to execute the plays that are called. You look really bad in this thread
So O is to blame for Charks drops and Etlings overthrows vs Alabama?
There's 3-4 plays in that game that most would agree would have have hanged the outcome, that was O's fault?
What about Canada? He's the one who called those plays?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:12 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Wow.
It's Os fault Etling overthrows and Chark drops!
Be careful Danny Etling haters will be along shortly to chastise you for not agreeing that he suxks.
Tough delima you've put them in.
Hate O or hate Etling
The poster above is in a bind over this
It's Os fault Etling overthrows and Chark drops!
Be careful Danny Etling haters will be along shortly to chastise you for not agreeing that he suxks.
Tough delima you've put them in.
Hate O or hate Etling
The poster above is in a bind over this
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
yes. bad execution falls on coaches.how do you not know this?
im done. love you
Brandon Harris?
Dupre, Dural and Quinn all had the dropsies with Miles. Is that on him?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:17 pm to BayouCowboy
quote:did miles get fired??
Brandon Harris?
Dupre, Dural and Quinn all had the dropsies with Miles. Is that on him?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:17 pm to BayouCowboy
Ssshhhhhh
That's his bff. Don't apply to them.
Man, talk about talking out both sides of your mouth.
You got that loudmouth there
That's his bff. Don't apply to them.
Man, talk about talking out both sides of your mouth.
You got that loudmouth there
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:18 pm to justice
Is that a yes? I'm curious what rickydaddy's response is as well.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:19 pm to R11
quote:. So it’s etlings and Charks fault for the bama loss. Cool. Why do head coaches have wins and losses if they get no blame or credit? It’s all on the players.
Wow.
It's Os fault Etling overthrows and Chark drops!
Be careful Danny Etling haters will be along shortly to chastise you for not agreeing that he suxks.
Tough delima you've put them in.
Hate O or hate Etling
The poster above is in a bind over this
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:20 pm to justice
quote:
So it’s etlings and Charks fault for the bama loss. Cool. Why do head coaches have wins and losses if they get no blame or credit? It’s all on the players.
I guess the same reason some people say interim records don't count.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:21 pm to R11
quote:. Lol you are stupid. Miles was fired for the lack of execution with the offense for years. He didn’t get anyone with that post. It’s obvious to r11 miles shouldn’t have been fired because it was all the players fault for the offense struggling.
Ssshhhhhh
That's his bff. Don't apply to them.
Man, talk about talking out both sides of your mouth.
You got that loudmouth there
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:22 pm to justice
quote:
justice
Be careful guy, you are gonna end up taking up for your boy Etling!
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
isnt it funny watching these people tout 3 loss seasons after years of calling them underachieving?
Did the 2013 season have a better overall talent than this year??? YES... Is it O's fault that the teams they had on the schedule sucked??? NO....
When Miles had ELITE talent and lost three games YES I was critical...
But I knew this was coming from you... You have hated the Hire and the guy they hired...
BTW.. Be honest... Did O do a better job this year than he did in any year at Ole Miss???????????
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:24 pm to justice
So when Bill Walsh went to Stanford and couldn’t win anything it wasn’t because his players couldn’t execute it was because he wasn’t a good coach. Lol sound logic once again.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
yes. bad execution falls on coaches.how do you not know this?
I'll throw this out there.
I do blame Mickey Joseph for bad WR play. He's the weakest position coach we have and was hired to recruit N.O. I'd rather we hired a great WR coach that can recruit good WRs because he's that good at coaching.
That's absolutely on O. I've stated this multiple times. Didn't like the choice.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:24 pm to BayouCowboy
quote:
Dupre, Dural and Quinn all had the dropsies with Miles. Is that on him?
UH YES. are you under the impression Miles hasnt been blamed for qb execution. my god the revisionist history here is laughable.
the success or failure always fall on coaches and rightfully so.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:26 pm to Madking
quote:
So when Bill Walsh went to Stanford and couldn’t win anything it wasn’t because his players couldn’t execute it was because he wasn’t a good coach. Lol sound logic once again.
then why fire any coach?
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