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re: Patrick Queen and Breiden Fehoko going back and forth about Ed O

Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13239 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:35 pm to
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His downfall started when he was too stupid to realize he was about to lose both Aranda and he made the swinging wildly panic hire with Pelini


He didn't hire Pelini.
I remember a reporter asking O about his Pelini interview. He answered, I didn't interview him.

Apparently that was Woody's hire.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54358 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:36 pm to
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Ed made some dumbass decisions in his handling of his public eye, and he isn't a top tier coach, but way more should be put on the team of losers who marched against their perceived idea that all whites are racist. When Ed didn't align w that, you had a disconnect from hc to the kids, and a team full of weak minded losers who couldn't hold the GOAT teams jock
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Ryan Clark is still smiling over that season.

Then Ed O got invited to appear on Fox news and that made the idiots go over the edge. It really was amazing to watch it all go down.

You are going to get a lot of slack from the board retards and groomers, but this is pretty damn accurate. Once the race issue was made into something it shouldn't have been, it was all downhill from there. Ed O was definitely not the guy to handle something like that, but any coach in that scenario would have been doomed if they didn't bend the knee. Ed didn't, and that was that.
Posted by Pop
Member since Feb 2013
878 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:40 pm to
Absolutely. The rest is all bullshite.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:41 pm to
2021 6-7 wasn't covid

2020 5-5 was covid.


A shite ton of O's recruits either were shite or transfered out from 2018 -2020.
2018 class was basically nothing except Chase and Marshall.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10580 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:41 pm to
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He’s saying that 2018 team should have been a CFP team if the offense worked.


I realize that, but I don't think its accurate. The defense was good not great. We got worked by Bama, worked by Kellen Mond (even before OT) and gave up a fourth quarter lead to Florida.

quote:

that was O’s 2nd OC in 2 years and we still were sticking Joe Burrow under center and handing the ball to Nick 200 times.


Agreed. The Canada hire was bad. I have heard everything from the hire was forced on Orgeron, that Orgeron undermined him, and that Canada hated college ball. Regardless, Orgeron shite the bed with the hire and it cost us progress in 2017 with a vet QB, and that bled into 2018.

I thought we should have thrown the ball more in 2018 as well, but lets be honest, Burrow was solid but wasn't the same QB he was in 2019. He improved tremendously thru the year, but he struggled with accuracy deep and threw some bad INT's. Other than the A&M game, that season went about as good as it could.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:42 pm to
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PensaTigers


I came in perfect... you're an ignorant dumbass that can't read statistics and want everything to be political. You are a plague on this country.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:45 pm to
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Ed O was definitely not the guy to handle something like that, but any coach in that scenario would have been doomed if they didn't bend the knee


You didn't have to bend a knee just don't publicly talk about it. Or just acknowledge feelings.... " my players are hurting and I feel for them".
Posted by OU812
Eaton Rapids, Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13186 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:49 pm to
O did not bring in Burrow. The safeties coach(cant remember his name)did because he coached under Joe Burrow's dad.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10580 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:53 pm to
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The narrative that we “began to gel” in 2018 is revisionist history.


We brought in Burrow and he needed that year to get experience. I totally agree the scheme could have been better, but it was growing pains with a with a first year starter and first year coordinator who was too conservative and head coach who relied too much on the defense to keep us in games. Yet, anyone could see the offense was better than 2017 and there was optimism for 2019, even if it did come from the results of playing against weaker competition late.

However, anyone that says they saw pure greatness for 2019 is lying their arse off. Somewhat related to that, I was feeling the effects of some gin and optimism one night in the off-season and drunk posted that Burrow would finish his career at LSU as a better QB than Mettenberger. I was patted on the head and told to go to sober up.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13274 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:57 pm to
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O did not bring in Burrow. The safeties coach(cant remember his name)did because he coached under Joe Burrow's dad.

Bill Busch is who you are thinking of. Where did he coach under Jim Burrow at?
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
2873 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:57 pm to
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It's weird to me that people talk about O like his last 2 years didn't happen.
Covid and Ryan Clark. O didn’t stand a chance against either of those. We are seeing LSU obviously pulled the trigger too soon and brought in a fricking clown to replace him. LSU is in the dumpster right now.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75393 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:58 pm to
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Joe Burrow had 379 pass attempts in 2018. Jayden Daniels had 388 pass attempts in 2022.


And however many more passing attempts ended in Daniels scrambling.

we ran the 43 times a game in 2018 and ran it 37 in 2022 and our super dynamic QB got 90 more carrie’s than our top RB

we were bounding dirt with Nick Brosette.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25249 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:58 pm to
I'm not sure why they are even having the discussion since neither coach is here now (rightly so). Les was a great recruiter with a great recruiting staff and had as much success as he could have with his style of play before his offenses just became crippling and it was time to go. His teams played tough through for many years.

O was to many a complete joke of a hire, but he recruited a number of the guys on our greatest team in history. Chase was going elsewhere because Miles told him he couldn't play WR at LSU. O recruited him as a WR and sent the entire coaching staff on a bus to his house to recruit him. JJ said O promised him and his family that he'd hold a scholarship open for him if he qualified when no other major schools were even ordering him a scholarship. And Burrow said that it was O who sold him on a vision and convinced him to come to LSU (though Bill Busch gets credit for putting Burrow on O's radar and helping to recruit him).

So O played a big part in putting the pieces in place for us to catch lightning in a bottle. Also, K'lavon Chaisson had a legendary story about O tracking him down outside his house at like 4 am and following him to the airport recruiting him while he was going on a plane to take a visit at some other school. O put the work in to get the talent here. But then he needed to go after 2019 and everything went downhill.

This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 1:59 pm
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22158 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:04 pm to
I am team "keep this off of social media."

It's an innocent discussion until people start seeing off and taking serious shots at the program as it is now.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13274 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:05 pm to
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we ran the 43 times a game in 2018 and ran it 37 in 2022 and our super dynamic QB got 90 more carrie’s than our top RB

Ok so a difference of 6 carries a game. How many more designed QB runs per game did we run in 2022? Let's say 3. So we are talking about a total of 3 more designed runs to running backs per game in 2018 vs 2022.
Posted by OU812
Eaton Rapids, Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13186 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Bill Busch is who you are thinking of. Where did he coach under Jim Burrow at


Ohio and /or Nebraska
Posted by PensaTigers
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2018
2638 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:06 pm to
So your claiming this was all a made up story right?
You're also claiming that I attributed this to the .500 season when I clearly gave blame to O as well and never said that at all. I blame him plenty, i also blame the brainwashed ignorant weak kids who couldn't even begin to know what leadership and wisdom is. I read kardel Thomas' Twitter myself, he was a complete divisive idiot. Being a coach should mean playing politics, I nor coach O forced that.

You're also not accurately pointing out anything, you have no base for claiming I make everything politics off one example which shouldn't have to be explained to you. I also never said you couldn't handle my politics, I said you can't handle handle the truth that political division affected the team.

As much as you're used to forcing narratives and putting words in people's mouths to feel like you've made a good point, it isn't going to work with me.

As for your last point, I could write a 9 page essay. Please don't get me started when we have half the country of sheep and their puppet masters willing to force us intonl global conflict as their power slips away. Yeah, its not them destroying the country, it's me mentioning a bunch of racist ignorant kids brainwashed that all white people are racist might have affected the 2020 season.

Good lord.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75393 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:07 pm to
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Yet, anyone could see the offense was better than 2017


the problem was it functionally wasn’t even if you believe we had a better QB (which I did)

We threw for 17 TD in 2017
We threw for 17 TD in 2018

We Ran for 25 TD in 2017
We ran for 29 TD in 2018.

5 of those TD came in OT vs A&M when we got the ball on the 25 7 times.

So in regulation we passed for Less TD and ran for 1 more TD.

Statistically the difference between 2017 and 2018 was 7 OTs vs A&M pumping out numbers up and Cole Tracy being 29/33 vs our kickers being 16/27 in 2017.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13274 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Ohio and /or Nebraska

Bill Busch never coach at Ohio so that one is out. So which years did he coach under Burrow at Nebraska
Posted by PensaTigers
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2018
2638 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:09 pm to
Yeah, that's how the left works. They've never said that "silence is your support of white supremicy", nor do they feel that way. Either you're marching with them or you're what they're marching against. Wake the f up.
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