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re: OU Pitcher Gray not suspended after testing positive for Adderall?

Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:54 am to
Hope the fans give him hell on the mound and really get inside his head.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:55 am to
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This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 10:57 am
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:07 am to
I'm somewhat confused on this situation. If someone can clear it up please help.

So Gray tested positive in an MLB test. I get it. No college reprecussions.

But OU is going to let him continue take it now that they know about it??

Isn't it against the law to take a controlled substance if you have no scrip???



.....i'm an idiot so inb4 GFY or whatever
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 11:08 am
Posted by CaroTiger
South Carolina
Member since May 2011
1307 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:08 am to
We are not afraid of Oklahoma. The only problem I see is he is having withdrawals, throws his 99 mph fastball out of control, hits one of our studs, and hurts them before Omaha. Otherwise, bring on the Sooners!!
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:13 am to
This is what Moscona Tweeted regarding his eligibility.

LINK
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:14 am to
How OU’s Jonathan Gray is Eligible

An MLB pre-draft drug test taken by Oklahoma pitcher Jonathan Gray came up positive for Adderall, a substance banned by both MLB and the NCAA. Yet Oklahoma has confirmed Gray is eligible to compete in this weekend's Super Regional series against LSU. How is that possible?

The NCAA's strict drug testing penalties are only ever imposed for a positive test during NCAA drug testing. The NCAA's Student-Athlete Statement requires that an athlete who tests positive for an NCAA banned substance by an outside sports governing body must report the result to his or her athletic director, not the NCAA.

From there, the NCAA's rules on institutional drug testing policies would kick in. Those rules only require that schools follow their drug testing policies. They do not require that an institution have any specific features or penalties in their drug testing policy, or even to have a drug testing policy at all.

This copy of OU's drug testing policy (admittedly from 2006) does not specifically address outside tests and whether they count as violations of the drug testing policy. But even if Gray's MLB test counted as a violation of OU's drug testing policy, he would not be suspended from any competition for a first violation. This is fairly standard among institutional drug testing policies.

Gray's bigger issue is that as OU progresses in the NCAA tournament, drug testing becomes more likely and more frequent. If Gray were to test positive for Adderall in an NCAA test, he would be suspended for a year and lose a season of eligibility, which would mean his college career would be over.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:15 am to
Those rules only require that schools follow their drug testing policies. They do not require that an institution have any specific features or penalties in their drug testing policy, or even to have a drug testing policy at all.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:16 am to
is OU's drug test policy possible to find on google or is it private?
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Gray's bigger issue is that as OU progresses in the NCAA tournament, drug testing becomes more likely and more frequent. If Gray were to test positive for Adderall in an NCAA test, he would be suspended for a year and lose a season of eligibility, which would mean his college career would be over.


this is so dumb. so they know he is doing it and his entire career hinges on whether or not they decide to test him? solid system
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:19 am to
I don't want the dude suspended. But I don't want him taking it while he's on the mound against us.

Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:20 am to
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OU's drug test policy



I found this.
LINK
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:21 am to
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But OU is going to let him continue take it now that they know about it??


What makes you think OU is 'allowing' him to take it?
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22967 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:22 am to
quote:

I don't want the dude suspended. But I don't want him taking it while he's on the mound against us.


frick that. I want the easiest road to win possible.


I'm for whatever the rules are. If he is eligible, then game on. If he broke the rules with an illegal substance than the should not be eligible. Pretty simple. Shouldn't have anything to do with who does the test or whatever other stupid technicality that that come up with.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:23 am to
quote:

What makes you think OU is 'allowing' him to take it?


misinformation
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:23 am to
so if it is his first offense he can still play, 2nd offense is suspension
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:24 am to
quote:

I want the easiest road to win possible.


thing is, i bet the dude has a huge meltdown on the mound if he's coming down off the stuff
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:25 am to
id like to see paul call out their coach over this since we took the high road last week in sitting our 2nd best pitcher and still won our regional.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16378 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:26 am to
Isn't it a performance enhancing drug?

That should make him hard to beat with an advantage like that. Maybe now we know how he can get his fastball up to 100.

Well maybe if they beat us, the NCAA can then suspend him for the WS so the other teams won't have a disadvantage. Yea that would be cool.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16378 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:31 am to
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this is so dumb. so they know he is doing it and his entire career hinges on whether or not they decide to test him? solid system


Like I said it would be cool if they wait after the super and test him especially if they beat us. Of course i am joking but why not believe this the way the NCAA seems to favor some.
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22967 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 11:40 am to
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Like I said it would be cool if they wait after the super and test him especially if they beat us. Of course i am joking but why not believe this the way the NCAA seems to favor some.

we should win the series regardless, but either way this would piss me off and should piss off Virginia Tech fans as well
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