re: Orgeron's record at Ole Miss is irrelevant

It was a long time ago...

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You didn't answer the question, who should LSU have gone after because Jimbo and Herman did not want to be at LSU, notwithstanding delusional fans falling into the fallacy that Jimbo wanted to come back two years in a row

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herman had to be interested before numb nuts pulled the offer. fleck, gundy, fedora, fuentes, wittingham, patterson, & at least 80 other coaches were more qualified especially with having 2 months to work with. within 2 hours texas fired & hired a coach, do you think jimbo & herman should have been the only options?

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Orgeron's record at Ole Miss is very relevant because it shows that unlike Miles, Orgeron is very capable of learning form his mistakes, in stark contrast to Miles who remained incompetent year after year until finally LSU woke up and thank Gawd fired him.

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O was the worst coach in OM history. Both coaches before and after him had far greater success.

There is no defending O's time at OM.

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O's record at Ole Miss isn't any more relevant than when you used to crap in your pants as a toddler. Do you still do it today? Hopefully not, and the reason why is you learned from your mistakes. Did coach O make the same mistakes he made at Ole Miss at USC and now LSU? No, because like you O learned from his mistakes. Now if you are capable of learning from your stupid mistakes, what makes you believe that coach O isn't cable of learning from his stupid mistakes? Do you want us to claim that you crapping your pants way back when you were a toddler is still relevant today? Man, we can't hire that fellow, because he used to crap in his pants. Indeed, what's good for the goose is also good for the gander.

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Orgeron's record at Ole Miss is very relevant because it shows that unlike Miles, Orgeron is very capable of learning form his mistakes, in stark contrast to Miles who remained incompetent year after year until finally LSU woke up and thank Gawd fired him.

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How has he shown this 'change' exactly? By walking into teams with more talent than their opponents?

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How has he shown this 'change' exactly? By walking into teams with more talent than their opponents?

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What? Are you blind or something? Or just too stupid to observe reality? Did coach O make the same stupid mistakes he made at Ole Miss at USC and now LSU too? Indeed, did he try to micro manage the coaching staff? Did he talk down to the players? Did he duplicate his piss poor record at Ole Miss at USC and now at LSU too? What...are you blind or something? Or you just hate coach O so bad that it doesn't matter what he does. Indeed, you would have been glad to hire any other coach less qualified, just so it wasn't coach O.

Indeed, you can't be pacified no matter what. Coach O could win the national championship two years in a row, and you would still be using his record at Ole Miss as a means to vilify him. Some of you people act like you're still in junior high.

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Well if it's relevant for coach O, then your record of crapping your pants as a toddler is also relevant.

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Meanwhile, did coach O micromanage his coaching staff at LSU like he did at Ole Miss?

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Which staff did he micromanage? Noel Mazzone? Hugh Freeze? Dan Werner? Frank Wilson? Did he micromanage himself when he was a terrible DC, and then hired John Thompson? Give me some specific examples.

Did he micromanage when he encouraged Joe McKnight to go to USC over LSU? How hard did he get when McKnight texted Frank Wilson on McKnight's recruiting visit, telling Wilson that Larry Porter was fake as shite? Do you even know what went on at Ole Miss, or are some moonbat who doesn't know he used the same binder presentation at both Ole Miss and USC, the same one he used at LSU? All this information is public record, as seen by Bruce Feldman (O's good friend) in the book Meat Market, which was published a decade ago.

It's one thing to say you learned from your mistakes, you moonbat, buts it another to actually show it. He stepped into situations at both USC and LSU where the teams were super talented (USC, if you remember you moonbat, was preseason number 1 that year) and he performed admirably. Question marks still remain about his ethics (of course you don't remember Jerrell Powe and the super shady way he ended up at Ole Miss you moonbat) and his ability to sustain a program. I don't think he possesses the capability to implement the changes within himself he needed to make. He has shown a lot more interest in courting favorable opinion than actually addressing his shortcomings (which can't be summed up by micromanaging, you moonbat). I mean, how many people do you know completely changed management styles? It's relatively rare. It's also rare for a coach who has won so few games to actually become a championship coach. Before you start quoting me Carroll, Belichick, and Stallings, you moonbat, all of them had winning records during the stints where they were fired, something that can't be said for O. What is more likely is that he will regress to the mean. Which means he will be what he always was. You moonbat.

Let's just hope Derek Ponamsky picks the right Offensive Coordinator and fills other team needs.